Wednesday, October 27, 2004

Report: WTC black boxes were recovered

No comment besides to say, if this breaking story - which will appear tomorrow in The Philadelphia Daily News - is true, then it supports our suspicion that the black boxes contained data that was never meant for disclosure. The Daily News piece is an abbreviation of this report, which begins:

Two men who worked extensively in the wreckage of the World Trade Center claim they helped federal agents find three of the four "black boxes" from the jetliners that struck the towers on 9/11 - contradicting the official account.

Both the independent 9/11 Commission and federal authorities continue to insist that none of the four devices - a cockpit voice recorder (CVR) and flight data recorder (FDR) from the two planes - were ever found in the wreckage.

But New York City firefighter Nicholas DeMasi has written in a recent book -- self-published by several Ground Zero workers -- that he escorted federal agents on an all-terrain vehicle in October 2001 and helped them locate three of the four.

His account is supported by a volunteer, Mike Bellone, whose efforts at Ground Zero have been chronicled in the New York Times and elsewhere. Bellone said assisted DeMasi and the agents and that saw a device that resembling a "black box" in the back of the firefighter’s ATV.

Their story raises the question of whether there was a some type of cover-up at Ground Zero. Federal aviation officials - blaming the massive devastation - have said the World Trade Center attacks seem to be the only major jetliner crashes in which the critical devices were never located.

A footnote to the 9/11 Commission Report issued this summer flatly states: "The CVRs and FDRs from American 11 and United 175" - the two planes that hit the Trade Center - "were not found."

And officials for the FBI - which oversaw the cleanup at Ground Zero - and the New York City Fire Department repeated this week that the devices were never recovered.

17 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Argh! What is the sum total information required to awaken some small percentage of the sheeple? This story, 911truth.org, and anything contra the government-provided position will be treated as liberal propaganda meant only to hurt the campaign.

It's all so frustrating. Can we depend on Kerry to REALLY investigate this administration when he takes office?

11:07 p.m.  
Blogger Jeff Wells said...

Frustrating, yes. I don't know what it will take, or how many stories like this. But it also reminds me of Leonard Cohen: "There's a crack in everything. That's how the light gets in." The official story keeps cracking, and it's getting to look a little like sunrise.

As for Kerry, I have no confidence that he would reopen 9/11, if only for "the good of the country." Which is the same reason the killers of the Kennedys and Dr King were never held to account.

11:34 p.m.  
Blogger spooked said...

I did a post on this too. Very interesting, eh?

I feel like we're very close to some sort of breakthrough on 9/11. There's just too many people who are asking questions, and we're getting close to understanding what happened on 9/11 with all the research that's being done-- there's a lot of momentum in this movement right now.

As far as Kerry, he sure as hell is going to be better than Bush as far as getting the truth on 9/11. You may say "skull and bones", but I think there's nothing there really. I'm not a big believer in the power of secret societies. Moreover, Kerry went after the funding of the contras and he went after BCCI. He's not afraid to go after covert operations and touch on taboo topics. Kerry is as good a man as we could possibly expect for a viable presidential candidate. He CAN'T talk about alternative 9/11 scenarios right now during the campaign, because he would go down in flames. But I think Kerry will do the right thing once he's in office. I think it is foolish and dangerous to believe there is no difference between Bush and Kerry.

1:08 p.m.  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was asked to go to Ground Zero one week after September 11, 2001 to help with the rigging of some of the damaged buildings.
One of those buildings was the Federal Building, which is directly across the street from Ground Zero. We were on the lower setback roof and setting up all the running cables for the scaffolds. The roof was covered with all kinds of debris, including airplanes parts which had been spray painted yellow by the FBI. While moving some of the debris out of the way I came across something that was clearly a airplane engine part. I took the part down to the lobby where there was a few guys who were Postal Police or Postal Investigators. I gave to one of them and told him where I found it. The guy told me that he would give it to the FBI. I returned to the roof and about an hour later an FBI agent and the Postal office came up on the roof.
The FBI agent took my name and the company I worked for. I was told not to touch or remove anything else on the roof that was marked with yellow spray paint. I was told that the FBI knew of the airplane parts on the roof and not to touch them. I explained I didn't know and that we were told that if we found any airplane parts to give them to or let the FBI know. I told all the guys what the FBI agent had told me and no one was to move anything that had yellow spray paint on it.
I went back to work and while I was getting ready to lower down one of the scaffold cables I noticed a bunch of men with FBI on the back of their jackets in a circle in the street below me. They were all looking down at the ground at what clearly looked like a "black box." I had my camera and took a picture of them and the "box' on the ground. I didn't want them to know I was taking the photo and only took 2 photos and just watched after that. I noticed they didn't let any of the construction workers near them to see the "box". Then a few minutes later a backhoe was running down the street where the FBI put the box in the backhoe and surrounded the vehicle and escorted it back up the street. I'm swore it had to be a black box the way they kept everyone away from the back hoe.
I still have the photo and I'm certain an expert could probably enlarge my photo and an airplane expert in "black boxes" would know instantly. They lied about almost everything about 911 and I bet they lied about the black boxes. I have done some research on Google about airplane "black boxes" and these thing are indestructable.
I believe they don't want anyone to learn what's really recorded in those black boxes. Maybe in decades to come we might learn some of the truths of 911. If only the victims families really understood that the 911 Compensation Fund's $7 billion pay out was "HUSH MONET" to give up their right to discovery in litigation. It's true that some 60 to 70 families didn't accept the 911 Compensation Funds "Hush Money." Only if everyone turned down Compensation Fund and demanded the truth we might have had the chance to who was really behind the disaster of 911.
Ask yourself a few simple questions. Who traded in put-options the week prior to 911 on both airlines involved in 911? Why didn't the SEC red flags go up immediately when the trades were 10 to 20 times the historical norm?
Why even after the fact, the names of the people who placed the trades never released? Why was the steel sold for scrap almost immediately and over the objections of every engineering and architectural investagator? Why didn't the greatest investigative team in the world not given a full set of the WTC blueprints til Jan 8, 2002? Why the greatest air force in the world that had responded 67 times prior to 911 to air space violations with in 10 to 12 minutes couldn't respond to hijacked airplanes that were in
the air for almost 1 hour, when two airplanes had already crashed into the WTC? There's hundred of questions like these! Just think, not long ago there was an American Flag flying proudly from almost every home in this country and today your lucky to find one flying on one house on the block!
What's even worst is how we put a price on human life where we are said to be "created equal" Amazing how a top executive's family could received 6.8 million and a maintenance worker's family as little as $330,000. It's ironic how some have become muti-millionaires and others like Oklahoma got nothing! We speak of "respect" shame we have really FORGOTTEN!

12:32 p.m.  
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