The Colour out of Space

I dreamed that I was in the grasp of a great and horrible paw; a yellow, hairy, five-clawed paw which had reached out of the earth to crush and engulf me. And when I stopped to reflect what the paw was, it seemed to me that it was Egypt. - HP Lovecraft
This is only a test
At 5:05 on November 22, 1977, regular television programming in southern England was interrupted by a voice claiming to be that of "Grahama," representative of the "Ashtar Galactic Command," bearing the usual "space brother" boilerplate of coming in peace to save us from ouselves at the dawn of a New Age. It was quickly dismissed as a hoax, but an extremely complicated one to execute. Though the The Sunday Times the following December 4 surmised it was accomplished by students using just "£80 worth of equipment powered by an ordinary car battery," no one ever claimed responsibility, and independent investigations found that the message must have cut into at least five transmitters simultaneously, and it evaded detection by monitoring equipment which did not even register an interruption, "suggesting it was achieved in some way that bypassed our electrical system."
This was actually the second message from Grahama. A month earlier, he had said pointedly that "We conveyed to Sir John Whitmore and to Dr. Puharich that we would interfere on your radio and television communication systems to relay when the civilisations are coming close to landing on your planet Earth. It is now in motion. We wish you to know that we love you."
That "Grahama" would single out the aristocratic former racing champion Whitmore and parapsychologist and MKULTRA researcher Andrija Puharich suggests this was no simple hoax: both men were deeply involved with a decades'-long channelled communication with entities representing a universal hierarchy sometimes called the "70 Brotherhoods of the Great White Brotherhood." The entities governing our reality identified themselves the Nine.
Another link to Whitmore and Puharich was British author Stuart Holyroyd's recently published Prelude to the Landing on Planet Earth, which the two had commissioned as an account of their work with the Nine. In the book, Holroyd wrote that the Nine intended to “interrupt television and radio transmissions during the period 18th to 22nd November.”
Regarding the television interruptions, Lynn Picknett and Clive Prince write in The Stargate Conspiracy that, "as usual, there were only two options considered: either the whole thing was genuine and extraterrestrials had really spoken to the southern English through their television sets; or it was hoax, just done for a laugh. The idea that such a message could be easily contrived by, for example, an intelligence agency that would have the necessary technical skills has never, to our knowledge, even been considered."
This seems a bizarre oversight given the circumstantial connections to Whitmore and Puharich, and especially the latter's service in Army Intelligence and later as a CIA contractor researching the induction of altered states of consciousness. (Whitmore, incidentally, is now also Britain's "number one business coach," training top executives from companies such as Barclays, Lloyds, Pricewaterhouse Coopers and Rolls Royce.) Uri Geller, for a time one of the Nine's channellers, told Picknett and Prince that "the CIA brought Puharich in to come and get me out of Israel," and in his essay In the Thick of It, physicist Jack Sarfatti writes that "Puharich was Geller's case officer in America with money provided by Sir John Whitmore."
Andrija Puharich and Sir John Whitmore

The Deep Space Nine
The "Council of Nine" have been delivering curiously consistent messages through a succession of mediums to influential patrons with names like DuPont, Astor and Bronfman since the early 1950s, and nearly always in the shadow of military intelligence. Until his death in 1995 Puharich made his home in that shadow, researching shamanic pharmacology and electronic mind control.
Initial contact was made during a sitting of Puharich's CIA cut-out "Round Table Foundation" on New Year's Eve, 1952, at precisely 9 p.m., when the entities disclosed themselves through the tranceivership of Dr DG Vinod as the "Nine Principles or Forces."
In the early 1970s, Star Trek creator Gene Roddenberry was a regular at the sessions of channeller Phylis Schlemmer to whom the Nine had revealed themselves through the manifestation of a spirit guide called "Tom." Schlemmer initially assumed Tom must be her grandfather Thomas, who died when she was a child. In September 1974 Roddenberry asked Tom the question, "To whom am I talking? Do you have a name?" Tom's reply, through the entranced Schlemmer, as quoted by Picknett and Price:
As you know, I am the spokesman for the Nine. But I also have another position, which I have with you in the project. I will try to give you names so you can understand in what you work and who we are. I may not pronounce who I am in a manner which you would understand because of the problem in the Being's [i.e., Schlemmer] brain, but I will explain so that the Doctor [Puharich] perhaps will understand. I am Tom, but I am also Harmarchis, I am also Harenkur, I am also known as Tum and I am known as Atum.
It took 22 years, and Gene Roddenberry, for the Nine to reveal themselves as The Nine, the Great Ennead of ancient Egypt: Atum, Shu, Tefnut, Geb, Nut, Osiris, Isis, Set and Nepthys. Their message amounts to, We're back, and now it's personal.
(How much the Nine may have influenced Roddenberry is unknown. His involvement began several years after the original Star Trek series was cancelled, but a character named Vinod pops up in an episode of Deep Space Nine entitled "Paradise.")
In 1954, with Puharich back in uniform and stationed at the US Army Chemical Center in Edgewood, Maryland, a young Dutch sculptor named Harry Stone was being tested at the Round Table for his psychometric powers. Handed an Egyptian pendant that had belonged to the mother of Akenaten, he fell into a trance, began uttering strange words and drawing hieroglyphics on a sheet of paper. In English he spoke of a drug that would open a gateway to the gods, and of entering an underground hall where a statue of a dog-headed man came to life. Puharich was sent the drawings and a transcription of Stone's words, who took them to another Army doctor at Edgewood who, write Picknett and Prince, "just happened to be an expert in extremely rare and archaic forms of hieroglyphs", and to Puharich's surprise confirmed their authenticity. Stone had identified himself as Rahotep, and named his wife as Nefert, and mentioned the Pharoah Khufu.
Puharich was then astonished to discover that a man named Rahotep, married to Nefert, was known from Egyptian history, and likely lived under the reign of Khufu. Most significantly, Rahotep had been the High Priest of Heliopolis, the center of worship for the Nine, the Great Ennead.
The "gateway to the gods" proved a sacred mushroom. On one occasion when Puharich himself was hypnotizing Stone a Round Table trustee, Alice Bouverie, also fell into a trance and stated the mushroom was the kind now known as amanita muscaria, and said a specimen could be found not far from the house. It was. In one of Stone's trances, writes Colin Wilson in Mysteries, "Rahotep demanded a mushroom and then, in the presence of Puharich and Aldous Huxley, applied it ritualistically to his tongue and the top of his head. When Stone woke up five minutes later, he was able to perform an ESP test with a 100% score and describe accurately what lay on the other side of a brick wall."
"Tom" plays the race card
The Nine claim that something has gone wrong with humanity's "programming," and so the Old Gods of Egypt, whose home is Sirius, are returning to reboot us. Humanity is supposedly the product of genetically-manipulated colonizers, whose first civilization arose in Tibet in 32,400 BC, but apparently not all humanity.
According to the Nine, there was one indigineous race already on the Earth - the black. According to "Tom," the seeding of Earth by the Gods was an experment to see how "the originals [the black races] would evolve in comparison with those that colonized." The Nine say Hey, there's nothing wrong with that, but the teaching remains that it's only the non-black peoples of the Earth who have the divine programming. Also interestingly, the Nine have good things to say about most major American religions, including and especially Mormonism, and are quite fond of the teachings of Lucis Trust founder Alice Bailey, but singles out Islam for rebuke. "Tom" says Islam has been influenced by "the Fallen one," and in his book The Keys of Enoch, channeller of the Nine James Hurtak calls Muslims the "Children of Darkness."
Any of this sound familiar? Perhaps its inversion might.
Remember the Prophet Yahweh? His cosmology is eerily similar to that of the Nine, yet stood on its head. His God Yahweh is also, like Tom/Atum, a spaceman, but the starseed is the black race. Both the Prophet Yahweh and the Nine's channellers have proclaimed the immanence of mass landings, and great devastation for those who refuse the lordship of the old-is-new gods. Both hear voices, have delivered failed prophecies, and have a strong suggestion of military mind control about them. Both play the race card. And now, after the ethnic cleansing of New Orleans, America is playing with a deck full of race cards.
I don't know what's going on with the Nine, but a credulous reading of the story suggests a Freemasonic eschaton and the return of the original White Lodge from Sirius. If this isn't happening, then sinister forces - after all, Peter Levenda subtitled the first volume of his Grimoire of American Political Witchcraft "The Nine" - are conspiring to make it appear so, and it has been going on for over 50 years. Generations of leaders and scientists have risen to prominence under its influence. Dick Farley, former director of program development for the Human Potential Foundation, writes that the Nine maintain a "working network of physicists and psychics, intelligence operatives and powerful billionaires, who are less concerned about their 'source' and its weirdness than they are about having every advantage and new data edge in what they believe is a battle for Earth itself." Jack Sarfatti, who received mysterious, mechanical-voiced phone calls from an alleged UFO of the future in 1952, the same year the Nine first spoke through Dr Vinod, adds "the fact remains...that a bunch of apparently California New Age flakes into UFOs and psychic phenomena, including myself, had made their way into the highest levels of the American ruling class and the Soviet Union and today run the Gorbachev Foundation."
Whatever the Nine are playing, and whatever is playing the Nine, it's been a long game.
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Fascinating, Jeff! Mary C.
Rock that shit, Homie!
Understand that you are headed in a slightly different trajectory in this one, but I can't resist accenting a couple of spots.
1) British TV was also host to another potent hijacking with the infamous 70's psuedo-documentary Alternative 3, a hoax, a test, or whateveritis. A lot of the defeatist themes that cloak whatever it is that is going on behind the curtain weave thru it: missing scientists, mind control, escaping a dying Earth. So how exactly did this delayed April Fool hoax get the green light anyway?
It can be downloaded from here, by the way:
Heads up on the location 'cause they have the domain name of THULE which is no fuckaround name to drop. That occult clique had an assassination program that weeded out the Weimer Republic and laid a clean path for the Nazis.
http://www.thule.org/alt3.html
2) Gene Roddenberry also has an infrequent mentioned connection to the LAPD. According to Bruce Rux's 'Hollywood vs. the Aliens', Roddenberry was the personal protege of Chief William Parker, also an influence on the production of Dragnet. Years before Star Trek, Parker made Roddenberry official historian of the LAPD for a time.
Rux also mentions something very odd about a very familiar Trekkie handsignal, but I don't know enough Egyptian/occult symbology to back it up.
So, here it is raw from the book to be picked at by those dat nose:
"An interesting and little known fact,..., is that the "Vulcan" half-human alien Mr.Spock, probably the most popular character, was originally written to be a green-skinned(some sources say red-skinned) hybrid half-Martian. His "Live Long and Prosper" hand gesture is the Hebrew sign of blessing, the shin, which is also the Egyptian word word for 'Omega' and the sign that Horus of Behutet carries."
I dig what you're doing, Jeff
Amazing post as always. Thanks a lot for supplying us with all this mind food with lots of vitamins and proteins. We much appreciate it.
Well, this is some stuff to consider, all right.
(Sorry for the "anonymous." I'll be doing that from now on.)
I got the Sinister Forces book here. Read it a few months back. The Nine scared the living hell out of me. I got some "channeling" pals. Asked them about it. They remain silent on that particular subject.
Didn't make the Egypt connection. Guess I should've. It's not in Peter L.'s book. I'm dropping by the Rosicrucian Park in San Jose in a few weeks. Want to check out their Egyptian Museum. They feel like good people to me, but nothing is what it is, is it?
A good Fortean Times summary is here: http://www.forteantimes.com/articles/126_nine.shtml
Good, and scary.
I'm all for love & peace & such. And yet these people / things scare the shit out of me. I just don't buy it. I made it through about three months of the Rosicrucian stuff before tossing it. It's like Bob Marley without the art & joy ... no , it's much worse. Bob Marley was using historical metaphor. I don't know what these things are doing, but it's not based on any movement to help a certain people achieve liberty. It feels a little more like that old "To Serve Man" cookbook.
Thanks again for the good post, Jeff, and good wishes to you in your time of sorrow.
I am wondering, are you reaching any sort of *theory* here? I could go on reading your documentation of the weirdness for a long time, but do you feel it's leading to something? Meaning, maybe, a way that us working class people might have a hand in deciding our eventual fate?
Well,
Thats some serious shit Jeff!! I got a lot of resonance from that one as a few of the themes you drew on rang a bell with my life experiences.
I have always been a Trekky fan and as a techno musician/shaman i often rely on the wizdom of the shrooms'. Channelling is something that I have had to learn to live with as well so I can identify with certain elements of your speil.
But, like another said.....what is your point??
I have started to read a lot of blogs and articles from people such as you and have come to the same conclusion....What are you trying to say?? Do you realise that the dark one has made a lot of what you say superfluous and opinion?
Do you really believe that speaking of such things is really gunna make the difference required to bring balance?
What are you actually saying that hasnt already been said? Are you actually just entertaining your ego so that you can feel you are doing the right things by speaking out against a wall of silence and ignorance?
Are you actually just like me and waiting for the serious end time stuff to occur so that you can witness the transformation and no longer have to waste time talkin about this shite that really means nothing coz its already too late......??
You may not believe this, but I was one of those who actually *heard* this broadcast when it happened. I was living in Southern England, rather young, being 8 years old, but I remember it distinctly.
Although you got the name wrong. It was "Gramaha" not what you wrote, and I recall the title as Asta galactic command. The broadcast only lasted a few minutes, probably no more than 4 or 5. It was rather spooky, and I have remembered it all my life.
"The time of conflict is now passed!" the voice intoned. Well, Gramaha was wrong about that.
I may be having a slow day here but what is the point?
I want to be clear I am not refuting anything written above by anyone. This is just a honest question from Joe Confused - what is the fucking point? I am lost.
awesome Jeff, as usual
HP Lovecraft, required reading in these dark times
Syncronicity. I was just this morning coming to the conclusion the real reason our American homegrown Fundies, the Republican/Christian Right that so vociferously oppose the facts of evolution is because they would have to accept the fact they descend from Black folks.
"The Horror" cried Barbara Bush, " Oh, my Beautiful Mind!!"
Sorry.
Anyway, it is the M.O. that is obvious. Sure you're not a cop, Jeff? Or just an Agatha Christie fan? Yes, they did N.O., and so far, have got clean away with the crime. So far.
Neat link:
http://www.lexiline.com/lexiline/midianites.htm
Fun theory, too. No, I don't embrace everything I see, but I sure enjoy the stimulation.
Like I always get here.
Stars: (see "Celtic cross" as navigational tool) Of course, the original "cross" was the pose of the Pharoah with his agricultural flail,and his husbandry crook, held across his upper torso.
The Shepherd symbol, thousands of years ahead of the priest of the Isis cult known as the "Beard of Isis, or as the beard was symbolized, the "J"-Isis Priest. Because the Pharoahs were of the Age of the Ram. Lamb. Shepherds.
The Priest of Isis was a later time, when the Age Of Aquarius was dawning. The Fish. Fisherman. Star Symbols. What we have looked up to for maybe 250,000 years.
How STRONG is this Egyptian heritage? I watch young American football players point up to that "Invisible Man up there" everytime they score a touchdown. They may think they are honoring the J-Isis, but that urge to look up to the Gods? Predates their religion by TENS of THOUSANDS of years. In our blood.
The "Cross"
The SYMBOL of THE FIRST melding of the herder nomad and settled farmer civilization.
No need to look ANYWHERE ELSE FRIENDS, this is it!!
Egypt is Atlantis, or whatever you want to call it, Egypt is OUR post ice age root. A history we crave to learn, only to have charlatans and power mad flim flam artists, child molesters and liars filled with hate to misdirect the craving to KNOW. Into increasingly bizarre "Mainstream Religions", if you ask me.
A wonderful read on why and how some regions of the world developed great civilizations, while others never did,( it had to do with natural food resources available) would be Jerod Diamond's "Guns, Germs and Steel" for a scientific, interesting explantion, along with an amusing theory on when and how "royallty and politicians" came into existance.
Thanks Jeff, great read.
Felix
Thank you Jeff! I'm just starting to read Stargate Conspiracy myself, after seeing it referred to here.
Question. Does any of this relate to Barbara Hand Clow and her Pleiadian Agenda/channeling? Two of her books are called "Journey through the Nine dimensions" and "Alchemy of Nine dimensions: Decoding the vertical axis, crop circles and the mayan calendar". I know she gives a nod to David Icke in her new age work, but I haven't read her yet.
I hadn't been aware how really blatant the racism in all of this was. Thank you for opening my eyes wider.
...what is your point?
One of the tentative conclusions I've drawn from this kind of material, in posts such as The "Day of Declaration", No Time to Think, The Sheep Look Up, Is It the Future Yet?, America's Dog Star Days and others is that plans for a Grand Deception have been percolating behind the scenes for a long time, for a time such as ours, and that those planning the deception are influenced by ancient mystery religions.
The Stargate Conspiracy
http://hiddenmysteries.com/xcart/product.php?productid=16425
"From the Authors:
...We reveal the shadowy presence of US government agencies behind the current interest in the Giza plateau.
An essential part of this plot is the alleged link between ancient Egypt and a lost civilisation on Mars, based on the discovery of supposedly artificial features on that planet. We show that this view is seriously flawed, and that the intelligence agencies are actively encouraging the promotion of a meaningful Egypt-Mars connection...
We conclude that the conspirators are deliberately harnessing the most profound and cherished beliefs of today's society - from fundamentalist Christianity and the 'message' of ancient civilisations to the alien abduction scenario - to create a new, more widely acceptable religion for the post-Millennial West. We reveal that, underlying the apparently acceptable tenets of this religion is an insidious right-wing ideology., the true danger lurking inside the Trojan Horse of its New Age image.
However, even though the manipulators have abused and hijacked the ancient Egyptian mysteries for their own ends, that does not mean that there are no such mysteries...."
Why the rush to war in Iraq, home of the oldest known civilization, Sumeria (check out their creation story for "alien influences", BTW)...a war which destroyed many ancient sites and artifacts? Evidence, perhaps? Why the insistence on keeping military bases there?
maybe, a way that us working class people might have a hand in deciding our eventual fate?
Certainly, and the first step is called orgonite. Anybody can make it, and everybody should.
We've found it causes people to wake up faster to what's going on around them. And a whole lot of other wonderful stuff that'll make you feel a LOT better about being able to turn around the big situation.
The next step beyond orgonite is a peaceful and highly effective form of retaliation (check out the boards for more info), but get going on the orgonite thing first.
Peace
Arthur M. Young's name jumped out at me from that Fortean Times article that one of the anonymi dropped a link to:
Although The Nine may appear to be quintessentially a modern phenomenon, our research uncovered its truly astonishing pedigree. In fact, the story begins nearly 50 years ago, in a private research laboratory in Glen Cove, Maine, called the Round Table Foundation, run by a medical doctor named Andrija Puharich (also known as Henry K Puharich). . . . Prominent members included the influential philosopher and inventor Arthur M Young and the socialite Alice Bouverie (née Astor).
My husband has a few of Young's books -- The Bell Notes, The Reflexive Universe, The Geometry of Meaning -- so I've been aware of his name for some while. Young was both the inventor of the Bell helicopter and someone with a continuing interest in occultism, but I'd never thought of him in conspiracy-theory terms until I ran across this on the Forbes family (John Kerry's maternal line) while doing some research into Skull & Bones:
Several of the Forbes family cashed out of their dealings in China after the Opium War, and reinvested in Europe and the United States. Some of the population growth of Chicago and Midwestern Plains states in the middle to late 19th century was due to John Murray Forbes' railroad projects in Michigan and Chicago. The Chicago, Burlington & Quincy Railroad Co., from Chicago west to the Pacific was built by John Murray Forbes who had perhaps a reputation for sound financial management amongst the railroad tycoons of the day.
In 1879, William Forbes, son of John Murray Forbes, risked the fortune to financially back Alexander Graham Bell's telephone company, and become president of the company, a risk which paid off.
Cameron Forbes used his wealth to become Governor General of the Philippines. His niece Ruth Forbes Paine Young tapped her Forbes family inheritance to finance the International Peace Academy. Her husband invented the Bell Helicopter used in the Korean and Vietnam Wars. In a tiny footnote to history, Ruth Forbes Paine Young's son, Michael R. Paine, and his wife Ruth Paine, allowed Maria Oswald, the wife of Lee Harvey Oswald, to live in their house as a family friend, and Oswald's rifle was stored for a time in the Paine's family garage.
And further:
William Cameron Forbes, served as Governor-General of the Philippines (1909-13), as Overseer to Harvard University (1914-20), and as U.S. ambassador to Japan at the time of the Manchurian crisis (1931-32). Forbes’ brother, the multimillionaire Ralph Emerson Forbes (d. 1937), was father of Ruth (Forbes) Paine Thomas Young (1903-1998), philanthropist, one of the principal founders of the U.N.-affiliated International Peace Academy, and wife (thirdly) of the eccentric Arthur Middleton Young (1905-1995), an innovator in helicopter design, and founder of the Institute for the Study of Consciousness at Berkeley, California. Ruth Forbes, by her first husband, the architect George Lyman Paine, Jr., was mother of Michael Paine, whose wife, née Ruth Avery Hyde, has been accused in numerous recent publications of complicity in the Kennedy assassination.
Aside from noting Young as somebody it might be of interest to investigate further at some point, I never did anything with this information. But now I'm thinking it might be, shall we say, enlightening to look into Young, his wife, the International Peace Foundation, and the Institute for the Study of Consciousness.
(For those who care about the details, there were two John Murray Forbes's, who were first cousins and were both involved in the opium trade. The one referred to in the quote was the great-grandfather of Ruth Forbes Paine Young. The other was the great-great-grandfather of John Forbes Kerry.)
Oh, and here's something else that I just found while getting current links for the above quotes:
Mary Bancroft (M.B.) was born on October 29, 1903. She was Allen Dulles' mistress. She was also his primary OSS contact with the "20th of July" assassination plotters against Hitler. And she was a close friend of Michael Paine's parents. According to researcher Gus Russo, FBI and ONI documents reveal that Michael Paine's wife, Ruth, was making inquiries about Lee Harvey Oswald in 1957 -- six years before the Warren Commission claimed they had met.
I don't know if it's spot on or just rantings -- but I'll definitely want a closer look.
starroute,
About Arthur Young, there's some interesting writings of his I'm just discovering at arthuryoung.com. This is from an essay entitled Fear of the Unknown:
At a talk on flying saucers which we attended here in Berkeley, the speaker devoted the greater part of his time to government suppression of public access to information. He was asked, why did the government adopt this policy? He said because they thought people would be spooked out if they thought there were beings from outer space who could read their minds.
This evoked the comment from me, are people spooked out in a church? Are our inmost thoughts not apparent to God and his angels? Is not the whole idea of religion based on a higher order of being from whom we cannot hide, with whom we seek alignment and to whom we pray,
But the fact that those who know most about the situation act as they do, shows how far we have drifted from earlier times when the wonder of nature had not been usurped by technology and scientific education. Now we have an explanation for everything and whatever doesn't fit the explanation is illusion.
This shows how far we have come. The mere idea of beings who can read our minds is offensive to the intellect -- the respected ego, who now persuades us that there is no one in the store but himself and rival egos who have come to pilfer the bounties which nature, by chance and necessity, has provided.
It makes little difference if we are told that the saucer people may be malicious -- they may be planning to invade the planet: It might be OK for God or his angels to know our thoughts; but not alien life forms invading the planet. What about the devil? Isn't he able to read our thoughts and know when we weaken and yield to his temptations? The devil also has a role in religion.
...
Are the saucer people benevolent? Some are, some are not. We don't know. It is hard to think of the cattle mutilation as benevolent -- but how does a rat feel about being used for experiments on carcinogens, or the salamander at having its legs amputated or even transplanted to unsuitable locations on its own body?
But as I said it's not just the innocent housewives who have been taken aboard flying saucers who are spooked out by them. It's the government itself. Despite their practically total command of the resources of the modern mind, since they endow what must be 70 percent of all research grants and have the funds to contract any research group to do their problems, they don't know what to think or what to do with what they do know.
Of course I don't know what they know or don't know. But I do know they have kept what they know very secret, and I also know that if you keep a thing secret it eats your heart out. It never gets explained because to explain it is to put it out -- to air, to expose.
Jees Jeff, I had to howl at:
"It took 22 years, and Gene Roddenberry, for the Nine to reveal themselves as The Nine, the Great Ennead of ancient Egypt: Atum, Shu, Tefnut, Geb, Nut, Osiris, Isis, Set and Nepthys. Their message amounts to, We're back, and now it's personal."
Lessened the darkness for a moment...
Cheers,
GH
Definitely another sublime post! Of course, in terms of pure symbolism, we can even trace these trends back further. Levenda's "Unholy Alliance," traces the Thule Gesselschaft and German Enorden to the White Brotherhood, the Hidden Masters. And now of course we have David Myatt's Order of Nine Angels. Babies, Books, nothing can stop Jeff's indefatigable teaching! God bless, and happy blogging.
Hi Orgonite,
This is OT, but the 'How to Use Orgonite' link on the page you linked is 404.
And, back ON T, yet another thought provoking post, Jeff. Keep kicking!
kermujin
Dave Hunt's "Occult Invasion" mentioned many similiar things to what you are writing about, i.e., there really are powerful devils deceiving the world. The Bible says that the Antichrist would worship a "god of forces" - i.e., all this type of occultic garbage.
from Daniel chapters 11-12
11:036 And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done.
11:037 Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.
11:038 But in his estate shall he honour the God of forces: and a god whom his fathers knew not shall he honour with gold, and silver, and with precious stones, and pleasant things.
11:039 Thus shall he do in the most strong holds with a strange god, whom he shall acknowledge and increase with glory: and he shall cause them to rule over many, and shall divide the land for gain.
11:040 And at the time of the end shall the king of the south push at him: and the king of the north shall come against him like a whirlwind, with chariots, and with horsemen, and with many ships; and he shall enter into the countries, and shall overflow and pass over.
11:041 He shall enter also into the glorious land, and many countries shall be overthrown: but these shall escape out of his hand, even Edom, and Moab, and the chief of the children of Ammon.
011:042 He shall stretch forth his hand also upon the countries: and the land of Egypt shall not escape.
011:043 But he shall have power over the treasures of gold and of silver, and over all the precious things of Egypt: and the Libyans and the Ethiopians shall be at his steps.
11:044 But tidings out of the east and out of the north shall trouble him: therefore he shall go forth with great fury to destroy, and utterly to make away many.
11:045 And he shall plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the glorious holy mountain; yet he shall come to his end, and none shall help him.
12:001 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.
12:002 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.
12:003 And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever.
the first move a good hacker makes after exploiting an opening is to seal that and all other openings off to anyone else, so as to avoid losing control of the system just hacked to some other hacker...
the first move a deceiver makes is to warn the deceived against all other deceivers so as to avoid losing control of the deceived to some other deceiver...
beware the deceivers, indeed, for their number is legion
There are dreams and then there are Dreams, there are visions in Dream that I take seriously, even if they are unsupportable with waking "fact," even if I scoff at others for making the same assertion--
I don't know about Psylocibin or Amanita Muscaria but I have met, in dreams, with the spirit/demon Coca. I know how absurd it sounds, and I am not nor have I ever been a cocaine user; I'm just saying, of all the spirit entities out there, I have seen Mr. C with my own "eyes" . . .
http://tinyurl.com/ag22g
Sweejaks cartoon brought this one to mind:
(Jeff, don't let any deadlines bring you to this.)
http://www.bringhonorback.org.nyud.net:8090//images/gd.gif
The cartoons are about as disturbing as the post...
Once again, Jeff, you have struck gold by bringing all of this to our attention, and so wonderfully presented, as usual.
I don't get the whole southern England broadcast thing. What was the point of it? What were the people who saw it supposed to do? Feel fear? Prepare themselves? Worry? Why to such a limited audience?
Rollick,
aren't you gonna tell us what the old C looked like, and with what manner of deportment C came across?
Had a dream myself. Some someone with a smooth male voice, that was not at all unpleasant or scary, was urging me to let him "in". (I am a straight, non-homophobic male, and there were no sexual aspects or feelings to this, although there is some obvious parallel. Just case anyone wonders.) He said he could help me, as in 'empowerment'.
This reminded me of no one, or no thing I had experienced before, so I don't think I was just 'processing' here. There are ways I could use help, so this does not surprise me. And coming at me while sleeping and maybe my defenses are down doesn't surprise me either. Anyway, it was like a sleep paralysis thing, because I sensed a presence and heard the voice, it was distinct but not through physical hearing. My immediate reaction was 'nothin doin'. I did NOT feel fear, but I felt an invasive and willful pressure being exerted upon me, that required urgent and intense resistence. And so this was a brief but urgent 'struggle'. Not so much of me against 'it', as it were that I had to be absolutely determined of the utter finality of my decision of rejection. I had to exert all my inner effort. Not like resisting temptation, but more like to resist an 'invasion' of will. I did not converse with 'whomever', in fact I could not say anything. It took everything I had to finally yell with all my might and gut, 'NO'! As I did, I awoke and immedieately came upright to continue with the confrontation. But it was then gone. It seemed to me that I had physically yelled out. But I later asked family in the house if they had heard me shout. It was night-time and they had not heard me, so I can't say.
I still did not feel afraid. More just, determined, that the answer was, is, and will be NO.
To anonymous 7:13
Whatever it was I say Good For You; as far as my dream is concerned there's a lot more I can tell if you want to know but to answer your question (and let this play into Jeff's post as it will) he showed himself to me as a tall black man
Oh yeah--then there's this:
http://www.dumpalink.com/media/1128697496
It would seem that all these organizations are devoted to one common purpose, the suppression of freedom. Their sincerity is no excuse. History is a bloody testament that sincerity can achieve atrocities which cynicism could hardly conceive of. Each of these groups is engaged in a frantic struggle to sell out, betray or destroy the freedom which was their birthright and which alone assured their present existence.
The guilt lies not entirely with the warmongers, plutocrats and demagogues. If a people permit exploitation and regimentation in any name, they deserve their slavery. A tyrant does not make his tyranny. It is made possible by his people and not otherwise.
Are you sure you wrote all this?
It's awfully good.
I had a stab at such a theme
in a novel, up on my web, whose title is The Hat People.
It's not Thulu Mythos, but it was the best I could have done.
Ivan
Sorry to disappoint farang, but there is no such thing as evolution.
The whole thing is just not nearly so complicated as everyone is trying to make it.
There are no aliens. The "aliens," as it were, are the fallen angels, or demons, if you prefer. Their leader is Satan, who has a thousand names. And yes, it is a battle for earth, but more specifically for each of our souls. The angels have hierarchies, and so do the demons in their service to Satan. Hence, "The Nine" principals.
Satan, who is the Father Of Lies, will no doubt try to convince everyone that they are benevolent aliens who will come as creatures of light. But, those who know will not be fooled.
Jeff said, "...plans for a Grand Deception have been percolating behind the scenes for a long time, for a time such as ours, and that those planning the deception are influenced by ancient mystery religions." Yes, Satan has been percolating the Plan since his fall, and those who work with him are not just "influenced" by the mystery religions, they worship him as it is just straight-up Satanism.
Read some Catholic prophecy from the great Saints. The Warning will come from God before His Great Chastisement to give everyone a chance to see their soul as He does in order to give them time to repent. Then he will unleash all the demons from Hell for the Three Days Of Darkness.
Again, it's time to examine which side you are on - there are only two.
Sorry to disappoint farang, but there is no such thing as evolution.
The whole thing is just not nearly so complicated as everyone is trying to make it.
There are no aliens. The "aliens," as it were, are the fallen angels, or demons, if you prefer. Their leader is Satan, who has a thousand names. And yes, it is a battle for earth, but more specifically for each of our souls. The angels have hierarchies, and so do the demons in their service to Satan. Hence, "The Nine" principals.
Satan, who is the Father Of Lies, will no doubt try to convince everyone that they are benevolent aliens who will come as creatures of light. But, those who know will not be fooled.
Jeff said, "...plans for a Grand Deception have been percolating behind the scenes for a long time, for a time such as ours, and that those planning the deception are influenced by ancient mystery religions." Yes, Satan has been percolating the Plan since his fall, and those who work with him are not just "influenced" by the mystery religions, they worship him as it is just straight-up Satanism.
Read some Catholic prophecy from the great Saints. The Warning will come from God before His Great Chastisement to give everyone a chance to see their soul as He does in order to give them time to repent. Then he will unleash all the demons from Hell for the Three Days Of Darkness.
Again, it's time to examine which side you are on - there are only two.
Hello Jeff,
I would like to express my admiration for your ability to pull together vast reams of disparate information and create an elegant, almost poetic post on a regular basis. The connections you make are original and, yes, intuitive.
With respect to the topic...it is difficult to express the Christian point of view intellectually in this setting without quoting scripture....but the Christian worldview has long tied together these elements in a rather coherent whole. Jeff's research and Jacque Valee's theories have always dovetailed with my gut instinct that these "entities" (channelled Egyptian gods, metallic voiced aliens, bigfoots, Ashtar High Command, you name it) are facets of the SAME phenomenon: inter-dimensional, non-physical, evil intelligent beings...or to use the politically incorrect, medieval term....DEMONIC BEINGS. Whether you call them demons, or entities outside the space-time continuum...they are deceptive. They lie. What I find fascinating are the supposed realities of the alien experience, i.e. the crashed saucer stories and the government documentation such as that in Richard Dolan's book. it tempts you to believe that there is a part of this phenomenon that very physical and real.
Jeff, perhaps you will address this in a future post...I would be very interested to know your thoughts re: the disclosure project and Dr. Stephen Greer's work.
Sorry to hear about your tragic loss.
thanks
Thank you, Jeff, for another creepily intriguing post. The ones dealing with this kind of subject matter are always my favorites.
I've been fascinated for a long time by the question of what the ancient gods, if they really existed (and I like to believe there is some grain of truth at the core of these stories, whatever the actual nature of these entities may be or may have been), have been doing in the roughly two millenia since their cults were extinguished. Do gods cease to be, or do they suffer a diminution of their power, once they are no longer worshipped? Is immortality a paradoxically temporary state that is lost when the prayers and sacrifices stop coming? And why do the immortal gods care for the savor of burnt flesh anyway? Some very spooky questions have been raised on this blog.
Furthermore, what's at the root of those ancient vestiges of the memory of the murderous monotheos from the Pentateuch? I refer to passages like the following (and these are just two among many that could be cited):
And Jacob was left alone; and there wrestled a man with him until the breaking of the day.
And when he saw that he prevailed not against him, he touched the hollow of his thigh; and the hollow of Jacob's thigh was out of joint, as he wrestled with him.
And he said, "Let me go, for the day breaketh." And he said, "I will not let thee go, except thou bless me."
And he said unto him, "What is thy name?" And he said, "Jacob."
And he said, "Thy name shall be called no more Jacob, but Israel: for as a prince hast thou power with God and with men, and hast prevailed."
And Jacob asked him, and said, "Tell me, I pray thee, thy name." And he said, "Wherefore is it that thou dost ask after my name?" And he blessed him there.
And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved.
--Genesis 32:24-32
or this sinister incident that happened to Moses in Exodus 4:24-25:
And it came to pass by the way in the inn, that the LORD met him, and sought to kill him.
Then Zipporah took a sharp stone, and cut off the foreskin of her son, and cast it at his feet, and said, Surely a bloody husband art thou to me.
Many commentators today view these stories as symbolic allusions not meant to be taken literally. I'm not so sure.
It may or may not be relevant, but I wanted to mention a strange experience I had a couple nights ago, and a possibly related experience a few months back. Maybe some of you folks might have some thoughts/interpretations.
Every once in a while I lay on the floor or my couch, put on some headphones with a drum track, and do some shamanic journeying. I always do so with clear intentions and without fear, as I know what I could invite if I didn't. Most of the time this journeying is somewhat lighthearted, insightful and therapeutic but not "heavy" in the way that makes you process for a long time afterwards... with two notable exceptions.
Two nights ago, I went into my journey with an intent to see and perhaps communicate with a "beast" that I've always sensed in the back of my consciousness. It's something I've had my whole life, and in my mind I treat this "beast" as if it lived in a cage, not to be let out until the time is "right", if there is such a thing. This isn't like a "pent up rage" kind of thing that I've personified or anything like that; it's something more subconscious and weird. Anyway, the cage has always kept it at bay, and to whatever degree this makes sense, it's always seemed "content" to stay in that cage.
So anyway, this past week I had had a few angry events, and while meditating I became aware of the beast again, and decided maybe it was about time to figure out why it's here in my mind. I don't want to confront/fight it in an adversarial way, because I instinctively know this is exactly the wrong thing to do in this situation (the beast would just feed off it); the communication must be done in love and acceptance of the beast's existence, without necessarily any taking in any of the beast's attributes, if that makes any sense.
Anyway, so I started journeying with the clear and fearless intent of trying to lovingly talk with the beast finally and venture into its world, to see why it's here. Whereas normally my "gateway" to whatever plane I'm journeying is something like a cave (for the lower world) or a tall tree (for the upper world), in this case I decided my gateway would be my normal vision of the beast itself, in its cage in my mind.
So I deliberately visualized the beast, approached it, saw its face, and went into it, with my intentions clear.
I knew things would get weird, but the particular kind of weird was very unexpected.
I immediately was hammered over and over again with faces upon faces upon faces. Many were distorted, many I couldn't identify, but most were screaming. Some were screaming in no particular direction, but the one that hit home was that of Martin Luther King Jr., looking right at me, and screaming at me "Run!" "Get away!", not aggressively, but more like he was quickly pleading with me that this was unsafe and I had to turn back now while I still could, that I didn't have any idea who I was dealing with.
But I still felt no fear, and I refused to turn back. So I proceeded through the sea of screaming faces and soon found myself... lying down somewhere, perhaps on a bed of some kind, looking up at three or four faces that were bent over staring down at me. But they weren't normal faces, they were rigid and polished and distorted, very much like the masked faces from that movie Eyes Wide Shut. I couldn't see beyond the masks, but they looked down at me intently, and made it clear that I wasn't afraid of them, and my reason for being here was to express this lack of fear and that it was time to communicate, that we obviously had some part to play in each other's lives and it's time we moved on with it.
And as they stared down at me right as my drumming track was coming to an end, they said something like they'd "pass on" my message to the appropriate people and they'd "be in touch", or something to that effect, and when I got this response it was my first real understanding that these faces were only scratching the surface of something else.
That was the end of that journey. Now even though it wasn't directly related, upon "waking" I almost immediately got the sensation that this was connected with a previous powerful journey I had, one which involved a distorted red-winged one-eyed owl that was telling me very clearly to "pay attention", not just in the journey but in general. After this most recent journey I somehow got the sense that these two events are linked.
Any thoughts? Because I'm starting to wonder who exactly I'm dealing with here.
Err, one small typo in my fourth-to-last paragraph dramatically changed the effect of what I saying there.
I'd said: "but they looked down at me intently, and made it clear that I wasn't afraid of them". What I meant to say was: "but they looked down at me intently, and I made it clear that I wasn't afraid of them". Hopefully that makes the "they'll pass on my message" thing make a bit more sense.
Sorry to seem like I was havin a go at you Jeff ;)
Its just that I am reading through lots of stuff at the moment and trying to assess whats going on as there is so much mis-information and inuendo coming from all angles. As a result I tend to challenge some of it in order to glean who is talking chaff and who is talking wheat.
I do enjoy your blog more than others I have read as you do have a certain way about you that seems to be more focussed and clear about such topics as this.
Thank you for thinking :)
I'm still trying to sort out Arthur M. Young and related matters. A little googling brought me to this page -- which I think I've seen referred to here before. Or maybe it was a different page that just happened to drop all the same New Age-y names.
Either way, the people and interactions cited there don't inspire confidence.
The problem I'm wrestling with is this: There are individuals in both occult and political circles who seem clearly evil, however you want to define evil. Soulless, destructive, preying on others, whatever. And then there are others who don't seem to be visibly evil in that same way. They make all the right mouth-noises. They're in favor of peace and harmony and self-actualization and all that good stuff. Who could argue with that? You can even read their books and find really inspiring stuff in them.
But then you run into a piece like the one at the above link, and names like Werner Erhard and Ira Einhorn start showing up among all the "good" New Age-y types, and it becomes very difficult to tell just what is going on.
It also doesn't exactly inspire confidence to learn from the same piece that Young was a close friend of Charles Lindbergh's. (Though it does explain why there's a piece by Lindbergh, titled "Man's Potential," in the anthology "Consciousness and Reality" edited by Young and Charles Muses, which I pulled off the shelf after posting earlier today. Lindbergh mentions in the essay that he flew to India in 1937 to study yoga, but he doesn't say anything about his getting the German medal of honor from Goring in 1938.)
I'm not one of those who thinks that all aspects of the occult are evil. But occultism (as opposed to pure mysticism) does seem to have a strong power-trippy aspect, and when taken up by members of the elite an unfortunate kind of chemistry can result.
Even someone as avowedly high-minded as Arthur M. Young can get involved in things that go in a radically wrong direction. The modern helicopter that he invented -- which may have started off as an attempt to contribute to human betterment but wound up as a weapon of war in Korea and Vietnam -- may offer an exact parallel to his occult career as well.
Maybe there really is something to that "sell all you have and give to the poor" business. Certainly wealth plus inner knowledge seems like a peculiarly toxic combination.
Check out this article:
US car theft rings probed for ties to Iraq bombings:
The FBI's counterterrorism unit has launched a broad investigation of
US-based theft rings after discovering that some of the vehicles used in
deadly car bombings in Iraq, including attacks that killed US troops
and Iraqi civilians, were probably stolen in the United States
http://tinyurl.com/8krym
Interesting, that.
starroute, Charles Muses is another interesting name. Brilliant mathmetician who also wrote a book titled The Lion Path under the pseudonym "Musaios." It's a New Agey series of meditations with the intent of leading the practioner to "tune in" higher intelligences from the Sirius system. He translates a passage from the Book of the Dead to sum up the objective: "Now I speak with a voice and accents to which they listen and my language is that of the star Sirius."
Picknett and Prince write of Muses that "If nothing else, the Musaios story reveals that some of the finest minds in the world are being co-opted, or volunteering themselves, into a network of people willing to contact beings from Sirius."
A fascination with Egyptian glyphs began when I was 17 after a vision. Like an earlier post said "There are dreams and there are visions," such is the case with me. Example: Like the night before the tsunami I dreamed of a wall of concrete cracking and then water pouring over it and engulfing a town. On the Egyptian connection - One night I went to bed and found myself going up into this great white light. In that light there was woman who I can only compare to Isis but she was translucent and radiated this strong feminine spirit. I remember her with long black hair and a light blue attire that came all the way down which was see through too. She motioned me to come to her which I did and I went into her arms. The next morning I jumped out of bed and said I'm not affraid to die. Anyway, since then I have become fascinated by egyptian art and culture.I enjoy this site. Keep up the good work.
Jeff - What you wrote about Muses is interesting. I had no knowledge of him except as co-editor of that one book.
I recalled something last night that I wanted to toss out here. In the 80's and early 90's, my husband was in correspondence with an elderly writer named Guy Murchie whose work he had admired. Murchie was the author of a book called "The Seven Mysteries of Life," essays based on which appeared in the Old Farmer's Almanac once or twice.
In 1991, Murchie started forwarding my husband information about an organization called Planetary Citizens, run by an individual named Donald Keys. I have no idea who Keys was or how he had been promoting his organization up to that point, but the list of endorsers on the letterhead includes a large number of prominent names -- Sir Edmund Hillary, Thor Heyerdahl, the Dalai Lama, Coretta Scott King, Yehudi Menuhin, Pete Seegter, and Kurt Vonnegut, among others -- and the advisory council includes Isaac Asimov who I know never had any truck with spooky stuff.
However, the organization clearly changed direction at about that time, because Keys wrote to Murchie in a letter of January 18, 1991:
Earth is moving on, making Her transition to a higher state of consciousness and expression of love -- with or without us (I suspect a severely pruned population: separation of the Tares from the Wheat?) Wonderful to be participant-observers at this time.
Organizationally, I am instituting a reorganization of PC to convey a sense of the wider "universe" of interspecies and interdimensional communication that is opening to us -- by means of which the notion of "aloneness" and the practice of human arrogance must and will cease . . (and saints and sages be vindicated, by the way).
In the next letter from Keys that Murchie forwarded, the letterhead had been redesigned to include a subheading, "The Institute For Interspecies and Interdimensional Communication." (The address, at a post office box in the interesting location of Mount Shasta, CA remained unchanged.) And Murchie himself wrote to us on July 1, 1991:
Are you by any chance members of Planetary Citizens, the organization founded in 1973 by Norman Cousins, U Thant and Donald Keys and dedicated to promoting global awareness? I got interested in it because it seemed to have a broader scope than others in the hundreds of organizations trying to promote world federation etc. . . .
And now Donald Keys has sent me the enclosed material about Planetary's new goals, including "Psychotronics and Spiritual Growth" and such information as that "dialogue with representatives of off-earth civilizations has been proceeding for some time, with revolutionary implications and requiring great discrimination." He says the Institute sees itself "in a midwifery role, assisting in the birth of a major expansion in human consciousness." . . .
Keys doesn't make it crystal clear that he is talking about psychic messages from other worlds, but I'm pretty sure he is when he says that " 'elders' from interstellar civilizations" are collaboring with those of Earth.
The Keys piece that Murchie forwarded doesn't seem to have make it into the correspondence file, but my husband wrote back, choosing his words with some delicacy in the hopes of warning the old man away from an apparent conman without crushing his hopes:
. . . this IIIC material doesn't have that balance. It is very unspecific (as your handwritten note at the bottom of one page would seem to suggest). Short on fact and method.
I also blink to see evocations of secret masters, lost civilizations, reincarnation and advanced mental powers. The style and tenor remind me of the Rosicrucians or Scientology. . . .
The materials you sent say that there is already in place an "Assemblage of the Illumined" who are in communication with similar "Elders" from interstellar civilizations. But if this is so, whatever could Donald Keys have in mind to butt into their conversations, publicize their doings, and commercialize their efforts? . . .
I hope that I am not being too hard on the man--but these materials with their evocations of the marvelous, their consistent vagueness, and their appeals for money, seem to indicate a guiding hand who is interested in money, has fantasies of power, and doesn't mind scooting past or leaping over the hard details.
I'd think twice before I bought any stock in his enterprise.
On February 10, 1992, Murchie responded by saying of Keys:
You are right to be skeptical of him and his announcements of communication between worlds, but I think You'd be less skeptical if you met him. He is unpretentious, drives a truck and sleeps in a sleeping bag, and he gave us quite a convincing account of his investigations of interplanetary communication. I can't possibly repeat much of what he said in this letter, but he convinced me, and it is corroborated by other evidence, that UFOs have really landed on Earth recently and with beings in them from other worlds. My friend, George Marshall, was Secretary of State when some of the UFOs landed in New Mexico in 1948 and was convinced of the fact enough that he suppressed all the information he had in order not to risk panic. . . . Donald says these beings, who have evolved far beyond us, can communicate by mental telepathy. . . . Interspace travel is well advanced in other civilizations, says Donald, and ships from the Pleiades (about 400 lightyears away) have been here.
My husband kept trying to maintain a tone of polite skepticism, but I find a sticky note in his handwriting where he expressed his doubts far more strongly -- that the Keys material was clearly a cobbling together of sources like Madame Blavatsky, Charles Fort, and UFO literature, that his supposed aliens were far too reflective of late 20th century assumptions and concerns, and that it was "disempowering in its effects -- treats deep master like neophyte and thereby makes human learning irrelevant -- skips grades -- underlying authoritarianism."
The real question -- as the 1911 Britannica more or less says of Rosicrucianism -- may be not why this sort of bullshit exists, but why so many apparently intelligent and serious people buy into it.
Oops -- make that Theosophy in the last sentence, not Rosicrucianism.
What we're seeing here is matrix
for big art movements, notably art
deco, that for so successfully used
by the William Goebbels crowd.
I do believe Jorge Lues Borges
wrote a story on this whole dabate
(a sold-out audience in the terraces), as all the old Egyptian
gods were trotted out one by one.
There was loud applause for a while, and the old deities, some only half-human, tried to issue
responses, but those just largely
came out with a sibilant hisses. The
gods were incapable of speech, and that is where they gave themselves
away.
The narrator/observer then pulls
out a pistol and kills the paraded gods one by one.
How's our aim?
Ivan
Anonymous 9:36 PM said:
"I would be very interested to know your thoughts re: the disclosure project and Dr. Stephen Greer's work."
Food for thought on Greer:
http://www.virtuallystrange.net/ufo/updates/1996/dec/m13-003.shtml
"When asked how an
apparently "poor country doctor" could afford to flit around the world and
do all these things, Greer several times raised the fact of his friendship
with Lawrence Rockefeller."
Additionally:
http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/forum/thread9268.html
DS9 was actually Berman's project, not Roddenberry. Berman was nervous about it.I heard him speak at a Star Trek convention before it came out. He seemed to indicate that Roddenberry did not approve. Roddenberry was dead by that time. Remember that DS9 came out about the time that the Next Generation was winding down. Next Generation ended as a television series in 1994, but Star Trek VI : The Undiscovered Country came out in 1992, and included a memorial to Gene Roddenberry, who had just died.
For what its worth, by 1911 the Britannica was owned by the Rockefellers.
As for the nine, there are 9 angelic hierarchies each of which has a 'fallen' counterpart.
God punished the Egyptions because they mocked and killed the slaves who prayed for freedom. The Egyptions symbolisms were dedicated to the devils upside down vortex triangle of death and unless America puts away it's own new versions of evils vision of the world than the magnetic pull that your government is trying to attract will envelope and devour and draw you down you like it did with France, Germany and Russia.
Kinsei,
Not a smart thing to be doing, conjuring and trying to communicate with demons. The drum track opens your mind to allow them in, and make it easier to "access" you. They will, no doubt, pass on your request to whatever demon is higher up in the hierarchy to cause you more torment and/or possession. It's your own soul you are gambling with.
Tal,
curious that the most eloquent description of the Kaballah was in that encyclopedia of l911.
...Not that I'm a scholar; I just get drunk in parks and pick up weird books in dumpsters.
Ivan
amanita muscaria?
I thought that was called the death angel because it was pure white and looked like an angel with wings spread open
sheesh, it is supposedly THE most poisonous of all the poison mushrooms.
st.benedict,
I appreciate the advice; it's definitely something I've given some thought to (trying to sever ties).
One thing though, as much as this may sound strange, I don't treat the beast as something that was "conjured" by me, certainly not on the conscious level. It may have been conjured subconsciously, but if so then that was a couple decades ago (I've lived with it since I was a teenager), and as odd as it may sound, in those two decades it's given me as much joy as anything else, not from its words or actions (which are horrific) but from its sheer existence. By always having something that dark nearby and yet by not allowing that darkness and suffering into my own sense of personal identity, I can look on that darkness from an outsider's perspective and learn from it. The beast feeds on fear because it is fear, and by living with fear so close by, I got to the point of understanding it, understanding the fear, so I'd no longer need it.
I don't consider the drumming on its own a risk factor. I've done many shamanic journeys over the past year or two and they've overall been extremely therapeutic (and not in the "sell your soul to the devil" kind of way; this is soul therapy I'm talking about). I've probably undone more subconscious damage in my psyche in the past year than I'd even known about in the previous decade.
That said, I definitely sensed the difference between the experience of the upper, lower, and middle worlds (the "normal" shamanic landscapes, which have always felt peaceful) and the strange other place that the beast lives in (it's almost like it's a crack between planes or something), in the sense that while I did not fear anything I saw in the beast's world (and if I did fear, you're right I would have opened myself to serious possession, but I did not fear there; this was something I built up the spiritual strength to do over a long time before I took the journey)... even though I did not fear, I would certainly not call it a peaceful place, the kind of place to drop the flashlight of one's soul, so to speak. So there was a big difference.
In any case, I don't think I see much of a need to go back into that plane anytime soon, because there's no real need to. Further communication may happen, but if/when it does it'll be on more neutral ground. I simply wanted to open up communication, not out of fear or a desire for worldly power or any other kind of black magic (all of which is anchored in fear)... but rather out of love, because you can only truly make the darkness fade away by shining light on it, not only so that you can see it, but so that it can see itself.
To paraphrase Lincoln, "I destroy my enemies when I make them my friends". In the Kingdom of God, we're all friends, even the fallen ones. Recognize them for who they are and shine light, not further fear, upon them. It will only be that light and love that ultimately saves them.
Nice.
probably some misdirection in the article and clearly some confusion in the thread
misdirection: amanita probably != the mushroom used by the egyptians -- it just doesn't have the kinds of effects it'd have to have to be a believable candidate...the psilocybiin producing mushroom make for more realistic candidates.
BUT: amanitas do substantially potentiate a fair amount of other psychedelics if taken at the same time or just before -- they sort of pry back a bit your consciousness's access to your short-term memory (among other things), which makes it much easier to get drawn into whereever it is your trip is taking you...not always a good thing, but it has that effect. So it's entirely possible that the ritual actually uses some other drugging agent, potentiated with amainta, as its real agent -- this latter only being known to the elect of the elect -- and the initiates/low members are kept ignorant of the real drug and assume it's all in the amanita.
Confusion: amanitas aren't (or are only extrememly mildly) poisonous, and can be prepared in ways that removes whatever toxins they contain while retaining the psychoactive parts. There's a lot of very poisonous mushrooms that look exceedingly similar -- hence the misunderstanding -- and unless you're a real expert you probably shouldn't attempt to tell the poisonous ones apart from the nonpoisonous.
Kinsei,
The angels and the fallen angels (or demons) have an intellect that is so far superior to us that we do not stand a chance against them. They have the knowledge of God Himself and of things we do not, which is why the demons are so able to trick us with their lies.
An excellent book on the subject of music and its power over people is "Gods Of Wasteland" by Michael Matt.
I can appreciate the desire to "rehabilitate" with love, but you must save that desire for the souls of your fellow men here on earth. The entities you are dealing with are NOT rehabilitatable - they are already fallen, and it is for eternity and they very much wish for you to join them.
In the Kingdom of God we are not friends with the fallen ones - they are God's enemies. Our Lord Himself said good shall have no part with evil, nor light with darkness, here:
"For what participation hath justice with injustice? Or what fellowship hath light with darkness? And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath the the faithful with the unbeliever?"
II Corinthians 6:14-15
for those who have ears to here I present St. Benedict -- as well intentioned as he appears to be -- as a textbook example of the dangers failing to heed the warning upthread:
the first move a good hacker makes after exploiting an opening is to seal that and all other openings off to anyone else, so as to avoid losing control of the system just hacked to some other hacker...
the first move a deceiver makes is to warn the deceived against all other deceivers so as to avoid losing control of the deceived to some other deceiver...
beware the deceivers, indeed, for their number is legion
Benedict is right. The one thing I know of the demonic realm is that these demons have total, TOTAL hatred for human beings and they are constantly creating illusions (which is all they can create, if you leave out destruction) to not only trap us but to fool themselves into thinking they have power (to create). They play principaly on our pride or hubris and this comes in many forms.
As to wealth, power, the occult and delusion, the process goes like this:-
if you are wealthy, this gives you priviledges over others.
This leads to being treated as superior to others.
This leads to you thinking you are superior to others.
This leads to thinking it is right to use (exploit) others.
To feel comfortable with exploiting others you need to quieten your conscience and so push down your humanity.
This leaves, never-the-less, a deep anxiety that all is not right.
Assuage this anxiety with a display of power to prove you are right.
This is now an addictive cycle with the perception now twisted so as not to be able to recognise what's happening. You cannot help yourself unless, like the alcoholic hitting bottom, reality comes crashing through the delusion.
Power seeking has the same pathology as drug and alcohol addiction. Priorities are stood on their head and the addiction must be fed at all costs including the addict.
To paraphrase a question up thread:- the question isn't why would the super wealthy be attracted to occultism but rather why not? Where else do you go?
He who lies about small matters (like WMD's) cannot be trusted in large one's.
Over here in Canada we're a little perplexed and concerned that America is loosing it's focus. Letting wide eye killers with rusty chainsaws and blood stained knives across our borders to kill our families made me a tad uneasy. I'm just wondering, uh, you do know that there is drunken rednecks mess'n around in your country?
You do!?
oh.
Uhhh did I ever tell you how great America is!! Uhhh Yeahhh, the greatest place in the whole world, no the universe!!!
Is there any people close to American know how and brains? Not on your life.
Anybody else remember Louis Farrakhan speech from the Million Man March?
http://www-cgi.cnn.com/US/9510/megamarch/10-16/transcript/
It looks like this thread is dying out -- but I did want to add a few paragraphs for the record on Alice Astor Bouverie, whom I've been googling a little. Turns out she was the daughter of John Jacob Astor IV. (At least officially -- Astor had good reason to distrust his wife's fidelity, but Alice is said to have borne him a strong resemblence.)
Alice, who was married four times apparently always had a strong interest in occultism -- she's rumored to have gotten a sneak preview of Tut's Tomb. Her brother Vincent was best known for his active philanthropy and his ownership of Newsweek magazine.
In short, a couple of earnest, over-privileged, neurotic, would-be do-gooders with an apparent desire to atone for their family's sins but no very clear idea of how to go about it.
"The soul was always known as the “mother” in all esoteric (mystical) teachings; the instructor was the “father.” Father and mother, Osiris and Isis, those are the two forces present in the soul: the instructor, representing the divine which flows directly into man, Osiris, he that is the father; the soul itself, Isis, the one who conceives, receives the divine, the spiritual into itself, she is the mother. During the fifth Root Race (the present post-Atlantean) the father withdraws. The soul is widowed. Humanity is thrown back onto itself. It must find the light of truth within its own soul in order to act as its own guide. Everything of a soul nature has always been expressed in terms of the feminine. Therefore the feminine element—which exists only in a germinal state today and will later be fully developed—this self- directing feminine principle which is no longer confronted by the divine fructifier, is called by Mani the “Widow.” And therefore he calls himself “Son of the Widow.”" The Temple Legend: R.Steiner
ALL REPEAT ALL SPIRITS ARE ONE OF 2 THINGS: EITHER THEY ARE THE SOULS OF DEAD HUMANS ALLOWED BY GOD FOR HIS OWN REASONS TO RETURN FROM HEAVEN, HELL OR PURGATORY OR THEY ARE DEMONS (THAT IS FALLEN ANGELS) IMPERSONATING THE SOULS OF THE DEAD TO LURE THE HUMANS WHO WISH TO CONTACT THEM FURTHER INTO THE OCCULT. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS AN ALIEN FROM OUTER SPACE. DID CHRIST DIE FOR US HERE ON EARTH AND ALSO DIE ON THEIR PLANET...?? WAS HE BORN TWICE OF THE VIRGIN MARY, HERE AND ON PLANET X..?? ST PAUL WARNED US WE ARE UP AGAINST "POWERS AND PRINCIPALITIES" MEANING FORMER ANGELS, THAT IS THOSE WHO REBELLED AGAINST GOD. WE ARE IN A SPIRITUAL WAR ZONE AND THE PRICE OF FAILURE IS ETERNAL DAMNATION.
JUDGE THIS ARTICLE IN THE LIGHT OF THIS KNOWLEDGE. IT'S TOO LATE WHEN YOU'RE DEAD. REMEMBER THE LAST 4 THINGS: DEATH, JUDGMENT, HEAVEN OR HELL.
I say to TOM.........Bla,Bla,Bla,bla,bla,bla,bla!
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Sorry - jsut needed to correct some spelling mistakes that buggered up the context of my original comment...
Here it is again - corrected this time...
Tom - your caps lock key is stuck... and you're also a nutzoid religious whackball (in case nobody's ever told you that before).
Procrasta Nation: The "Alternative 3" video is a hoax; the giveaway is the credits, listing the actors who play the roles of the people supposedly being 'interviewed' in he film. Not sure about the motivations of the hoaxers.
The fact that Roddenberry 'nicked' the Shin shouldn't be too surprising. The same 'shorthand' is used by the writers of Stargate SG-1 (and SG-Atlantis, and Galactica, and Frank Herbert's 'Dune' with the Mahdi, and others). They gave their aliens names from various pantheons - not as a 'code' for the cognoscenti - it's just that the names have a redolence, even if you've never heard them before... and using all of them together (e.g., the individual Asgard being called Loki, Thor etc) retains the internal consistency of the original mythology. Easier than trying to make up a consistent set of names.
I've admitted in comments elsewhere on this blog that I'm a Freemason (Craft, Mark, Chapter, and some other Orders that are more private), in case anyone decides to 'decloak' me.
As I understand it, The Nine is nothing to concern yourself about - if there is any decision to 'intervene' it's likely to be motivated by the desire to see the experiment move forward (i.e., to return it to a stabler manifold... by stopping maniacs like Cheney and Bush from trying to lay waste to a piece of real estate that was important 20 generations before Avram left it, and will be importnat 20 generations from now).
Sure, there's a higher intelligence at work here. No-one with any intelligence could dispute that. Sure, it's based entirely on technology: that is, it's not based on physical or mental superiority except to the extent that superior technology enables more time for introspection and philosophising - that's a thorny hypothesis given the way technologically-advanced America is being disintegrated from within, by turning it into a culturally-degraded hovel.
Eventually, "their" cultural and technological exchange with us naked apes will be broadened. But we've not given them any reason to take us seriously as a species yet, have we?
Cheers,
GT.
http://marketrant.blogspot.com
Oh - one more thing...
Let's say someone wanted to be taken seriously (say, the folks at Thule.org). they might try to capture some reflected glory by trying to snaffle a domain like... Oh, I don't know... maybe 'thule.org'.
There's something to be said for 'hiding in plain sight' (or site... get it?), but the thule.org site is a bit amateurish; not as amateurish as the OTO and Rosicrusian sites (which practically debunk themselves - perhaps that's the point), but still...
Maybe a site called "I'm_Part_Alien_Lizard.com" is called for. (I've always been lousy at picking names - my cats are called "Blackie, Black&Whitey and Little Black&Whitey" and my blog is called "Market Rant" because, well ,I rant about markets. Nice and Teutonic-Linear (Praise Odin and the Flying Spaghetti Monster).
Cheers, again...
GT.
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silly/riduclous connection-- but i remember reading here, months n months ago, a post of Jeff's where he pointed out all of these accounting scandals where the amount of money in question was always $9 billion dollars. Could this be the Nine, subtely reminding us who's in charge?
vondardenelle
I am currently reading The Stargate Conspiracy. One fact about Arthur Young that is not mentioned in that work is that he was Michael Paine's father-in-law, and that Michael worked for him for a time. Michael and Ruth Paine, of course, were close to Lee and Marina Oswald.
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thanks Jeff for writing these.
As to what the working men can do about this, I think spreading the knowledge of these things is the first thing we need to do.
Even having people believe things like this are of importance and should at least be further examined can be a challenge in itself.
Jeff,
You come recommended by another website who has given you a "Borgesian Blog Award."
Glad I came. Great stuff.
Just as a point of information, I have tried to condense all this
quasi-Lovecraftian stuff in a novel I wrote as a guy not yet thirty. It was a long time ago.
I was told by an uncle who was involved with the old MAN, MYTH and MAGIC that I hadn't even scratched to surface.
Now that surface is in plain view in your blog. Guess by the laws of
synchronicity, I had to wait 30 years for the research after blindly writing a text.
For what it's worth, the book, The Hat People is available through most libraries and is up on my web.
Sure wish your site were up when I was writing the book.
Ivan
Mary C.,
Are you by any chance in Akron, Ohio?
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