Saturday, May 21, 2005

a "moment of weakness and temporary insanity"

Camping out with the Hosanna Church kids


This is an interesting find: a once seemingly heartwarming, now decidedly creepy historical artifact, courtesty of the Internet, depicting life in Louis Lamonica's Hosanna Church of Hammond Louisiana - you know, the Satanic Ritual Abuse cult of paedophelia and bestiality and cat blood - discussed in today's earlier post.

Of Wet and Muddy Faces

Somehow, in moment of weakness and temporary insanity, I agreed to tent camp with 14 pre-teen boys from our church.


"Boy, these camping trips wear me out," I remarked, stumbling into the house.

"Tired! You haven't left yet. You haven't even finished loading the truck," my ever-understanding wife replied.

Somehow, in a moment of weakness and temporary insanity, I agreed to tent camp with 14 pre-teen and younger boys from Hosanna Assembly of God church in Hammond, La.


...

At the campground, a frightening sight met us; muddy, drenched boys with giant water guns surrounded the truck. Already wet from the brief, yet torrential rain, they didn't care who else might get caught in the crossfire. The boys discovered, or created, a muddy super slide after repeatedly accidentally felling in the wallow.

...

Unintentionally, I started a survival-of-the-fittest contest when I brought out four weenie-roasting forks for 14 boys. The adults lost. Laws probably prohibit combining slippery mud, overcharged boys, sharp objects and a fire -- and for good reason. God watched over us, though, because no one, not even the fathers, suffered any serious injuries, discounting numerous scrapes, scratches, bruises and an occasional burn from an overzealous fire keeper.

Rev. Louis LaMonica, pastor of the church, joined us later that evening. He said something about being late because of a church function. I suspect he just waited as long as he could, thinking the boys would finally be asleep. He didn't wait long enough....


I didn't think the boys would ever run out of energy. Some didn't until after they returned home. They never walked anywhere, preferring to run. If only I could bottle that and sell it!

Pastor LaMonica also left early the next day, saying something about having a lot of praying to do for us. He was probably correct about that.

23 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

whoa. good catch.

5:21 p.m.  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As Anonymous said, yes, that is an amazing find. After reading your article, I ran a search on Pastor Lamonica and found the link (but I had your info, that made it easy).

Jeff, you are one hell of a researcher.

I watched the pilot episode of "Dark Skies" last night on satellite TV....and I thought, well, John Loengard could be Jeff, or vice versa.

7:24 p.m.  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes, what a heartwarning story. Hope those boys -- all of them -- kept on running.

8:30 p.m.  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous One,I wonder if Dick Cheney has ever been out hunt'en with any of these guys,YEH-HAW.Watch out for those woody swamps down there boys.Good thing the Pastor had to leave early,all the tribe might have had to service him. The fool that wrote that one into Bass Pro,I would really like to see him in person,Mr John N. Flesher,I wonder if he is really involved deeply with this lovely church? You know there are at least 13 people in this little branch office/church. Hope that they pry this wide open down there,but then no one gets to see this type of news do they? Just about every one around here is walking head first into a giant meat grinder. Oh,I'm sure the good Pastor was saying a few prayers for their souls,I'm quite sure of that,later.

10:21 a.m.  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

an interesting collection of reactions to this story can be found in the following thread (from a fairly christian message board):

http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/showthread.php?t=151736

11:11 a.m.  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jeremy is correct, it's been pulled.

Nothing nefarious there, just bad PR.

But, this is a weird story, Jeff.

I wonder how isolated these occurances are, too.

4:54 p.m.  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

After visiting the TimeBomb2000 site linked above, I just felt sad for a lot of the posters there. True, they weren't as fanatical as some posters I've read, but given their relatively moderate attitudes, I found some of their arguments strange. Particularly one poster who disregarded the alleged confessions of the molestors. I'm saying "alleged" to be fair, but I am not totally ignoring that part of the news article. In fact, didn't the story break BECAUSE of the confessions?

But on a different path...has child molesting always been this prevailent in history, or is it a matter of being reported more? Has humankind always been this predatory or is it just our society? I would really like to hear some opinions on this.

6:36 p.m.  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Asta-- my opinion is that the prevalence of abuse is a function of the prevailing socio-economic power structure. A power structure that tends toward stratification, whether reflected economically via class distinctions or societally via attitudes toward women, minorities, or other divisions, is going to engender a permissive attitude toward abuse and exploitation. The optimist in me would like to assume that all such societies reach a threshold where these distinctions (and correlated abuse structure) can no longer be tolerated, but I am reminded of enduring counterexamples like the Untouchables in the Indian caste system (though abuse there is far less prevalent than it once was due to legal protections gained by Gandhi).

I believe that the more transparent a society becomes (transparent in terms of economics as well as social structures), the more just it will be. While some (particularly feminist) authors argue that there is an inherent abusive nature in man (as opposed to woman) based on genetics, I think that in modern society (i.e. one elevated/removed from pure genetic Darwinism) the prevalence of male-on-female violence should more properly be attributed to patriarchal institutions rather than man qua man. I believe this is borne out by research into primitive societies; see here, question 25, though it doesn't include a source reference.

10:55 p.m.  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

By the way, I hope these guys get their weenies roasted. ;-)

10:57 p.m.  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

asta,

Historically, ancient Greeks warriors, at least some of them, took their young male lovers with them on their campaigns. If these were what we consider underage or not, I am not certain.

I am not trying to correlate homosexuality with these contemporary criminals, believe me. Perhaps the ancient Greek society approved of these liasons.

But it certainly isn't a recent event: there's nothing new under the sun.

I do believe Julius Caesar liked his boys, too:
"His elation was such that he could not refrain from boasting to a packed House, some days later, that having now gained his dearest wish, to the annoyance and grief of his opponents, he would proceed to 'stamp upon their persons' [NOTE: for this, read a graphic sexual innuendo]. When someone interjected with a sneer that a woman would not find this an easy feat [another reference to Caesar's supposed homosexual experiences when young], he answered amicably: 'Why not? Semiramis was supreme in Syria, and the Amazons once ruled over a large part of Asia.'

http://heraklia.fws1.com/private_man/index.html

Just new variations of old Evil.

Of course, I am just waiting for one of these high profile molesters, of a certain American political party, to get caught " in flagrante delicto", and then listen to the VRWC try to justify and excuse it, like they do when they enable Texas thieves and conmen like DeLay and Bush.

Then we hang 'em.

I've got two grown sons, and I recall at time when I was @ 5 y.o., and a neighbor's "odd relative" visited.

I still recall his attempt.

He's damn lucky I never told ol' George, my 6'6", 210 lb. Pops.

He would have literally killed him.

Luckily, I was uneasy enough, even at that young age, to feel I needed to stick close by my neighbor and other buddies. His cousin couldn't get me isolated.

He DID manage to get 5 of us off in the woods of Illinois, however. No mean feat, and I recall my folks waiting when we returned. Their 6 year old was gone, who took him?????? He got an earful, I am sure of that. Hell, mom was 5'10", SHE would have killed him if she knew.

Wonder why I didn't say anything? Maybe because, although I felt uneasy, I didn't know WHY I felt that way.

But, what a weirdo. Probably wasn't his only attempt, I am certain.
It made me real interested anytime anyone wanted my sons to join them in anything. I always made sure I knew these people well, that I FELT comfortable with them, and that a woman would be present if possible.

Now, with this woman being charged here, I guess that was a mistake.

Amazing, I still recall that after almost 45 years, ain't it?

12:05 a.m.  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

asta: this thread may be dead but that's why I posted it...american christians have a real blind spot when it comes to the misbehavior of other so-called christians and it seems the response to the cognitive dissonance that sometimes crops up is to retreat into deeper 'faith' than to deal with the facts.

gwbushmalecheerleader: I keep crossing my fingers and praying someone, somewhere, has the goods on one of these bumblefuck asswipes and that the photos and videos make it out soon; maybe they're hidden in the russian or israeli embassy next to a suitcase nuke, for all I know, but the sooner they get out the better for the world.

9:06 p.m.  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The presence of women is not a safeguard- the news archives are full of stories of horrible crimes committed with the knowledge or help of women, including grisly serial murders, torture, rape, etc.

7:18 p.m.  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You have posted copyrighted material without my permission and I will sue for damages unless it is removed immediately. For the record, I attended this church briefly about eight years ago and have had no contact with them since. I wrote this as a newspapere report working in the area at the time. Nothing sinister happened on this campout and I would appreciate you leaving me out of further discussions about this church, Lamonica and these events.

John N. Felsher

11:47 p.m.  
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