Thursday, February 24, 2005

"The Great Satan"

"Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law" - Aleister Crowley

A Priest and a Bishop

I promise to come back down to Earth again soon, and talk of run of the mill concerns like bogus wars, plagues and the End of the World. But first things, before Last Things.

For instance, have you heard the one about the Toledo priest? It's not a joke, except maybe to those who think ritual abuse is the domain of hysterical women and their suggestible children. And I guess that would be most people.

From Sunday's Toledo Blade:

Dark allegations arise amid probe of nun's slaying
Authorities expand investigation to claims of ritualistic sex abuse

For Toledo police, it was a rare assignment: Search an abandoned house on the edge of a cornfield in western Lucas County where people reportedly took part in ritual abuse ceremonies.
The search of the decrepit, wood structure last year was a sign the investigation of the Rev. Gerald Robinson was moving beyond a murder case.

No longer was the probe focusing solely on the man accused of killing Sister Margaret Ann Pahl, but was expanding into a new direction: accusations that children were molested and raped by priests in ritual services.
Four women told detectives about being abused between the late 1960s and 1986 during cult-like ceremonies involving altars and men dressed in robes, the accusers told The Blade. "I've had nightmares about this since I was a child," said one woman, who asked not to be named. "I didn't think anyone would believe me."

Noted forensic expert Henry Lee has been retained to examine the physical evidence of the 25-year old slaying, which police are still calling a "ritual" killing "because of the circumstances surrounding the crime, including the way her body was found: lying face up with an altar cloth draped over her torso, her body posed to appear like she was sexually assaulted." A "deliberate" pattern of stab wounds is said to resemble a cross.

Awful, but why should we care here, and can we please get back to bashing Bush? All in good time.

Then there's the one about the two Bishops. Or perhaps, just one.

Let's go back to Johnny Gosch for a moment, about whom we wrote here with respect to the Gannon/Guckert fiasco. In the first chapter of Noreen Gosch's self-published book about her son's abduction, Why Johnny Can't Come Home (released November, 2000), she writes of a visit from a young man, George Paul Bishop, who went by "Paul," and who was associated with the CIA:

Within six months of the kidnapping, a young man identifying himself as Paul Bishop contacted me by phone. He told me an international kidnapping/pornography ring had taken my son. I asked, "How do you know that to be true, can you prove it!" He replied, " I work for a government agency which is investigating pedophile organizations. And there are indicators in your case that suggests your son was taken by such an organization. We feel he is being used for pornography and prostitution." All clues were pointing to the kidnapping being organized and not that of a "lone criminal". I found it difficult to believe and accept that my son could have been targeted by such an organization.
Paul Bishop, CIA Asset made another short trip to Des Moines, July 31,1984. It was at this time, he reported the name of the man who was the "spotter," Sam Soda, in Johnny’s kidnapping.... Sam was not too cooperative, became annoyed with Bishop, asking him to leave his office. There is indication today that these two individuals knew each other prior to this time. Before Paul left Des Moines, he created a very intricate map of the crime scene, indicating time sequence of each aspect of the kidnapping. Paul dated and initialed the map using GPB (George Paul Bishop).
During this time, I had also been working with Senator Grassley from Iowa, he had been particularly helpful in facilitating with the FBI. Many times Paul Bishop would call me from Senator Grassley’s office, when finished speaking with me, he would hand the phone to one of Grassley’s aides who I was familiar with. That convinced me Paul was an accepted visitor on the hill in Washington.
Senator Specter asked Paul Bishop of his relationship to the case, to me and did he know this to be true. Paul indicated he was an investigator and that every word of my testimony was accurate. Paul remained by my side during the hearing; answering questions asked by Senator Specter, these were the only words he spoke. This struck me as very unusual but then I had never been in this arena before to observe how a CIA man would conduct himself. At no time did Paul ever identify himself as CIA during the hearing or afterward during the interviews with the Washington Press. He withdrew from the view of the cameras.

Now consider this story, from Fairfax Virginia, February 2, as the Gannon story was starting to unravel:

Police arrest two on child porn charges

A complaint about excessive comings and goings of teenage boys at a Chantilly house led, this week, to the arrest of two Fairfax County men for child pornography offenses.

Richard Evans, of Annandale, and George Bishop, of Chantilly, who co-manage a literary Web site, were both arrested by Fairfax County Police on Friday, Jan. 28.

Police started investigating Bishop, 46, after they received a complaint that he was allegedly inviting teenage boys to come to his house, to drink alcohol and to take illegal narcotics.

For what it's worth, according to this, Mrs Gosch has seen the photo of the arrested Bishop, "and it is him. No doubt about it."

Writing years earlier, she wondered whatever happened to the young CIA asset, who used to call her "mom":

He was a young person in his twenties and I sometimes wonder, had he been used in some manner by the very element that took my son? Was he sent here to share with me the threads of truth, which would unfold later? It was years before the CIA was revealed as a part of this problem of missing children in our country and the world.

Rev. Gerald Robinson and Paul Bishop:

A Globalized and Sheltered Disorder

The White House call boy scandal opens the door on some strange places. But it would be wrong to call all the places "America." Consider a few from recent years:


Alleged Pedophiles Helm Blair's War Room
Counterpunch, January 29, 2003

A child-sex scandal that threatened to destroy Tony Blair's government last week has been mysteriously squashed and wiped off the front pages of British newspapers. Operation Ore, the United Kingdom's most thorough and comprehensive police investigation of crimes against children, seems to have uncovered more than is politically acceptable at the highest reaches of the British elite. In the 19th of January edition of The Sunday Herald, Neil Mackay sensationally reported that senior members of Tony Blair's government were being investigated for paedophilia and the "enjoyment" of child-sex pornography:

"The Sunday Herald has also had confirmed by a very senior source in British intelligence that at least one high-profile former Labour Cabinet minister is among Operation Ore suspects. The Sunday Herald has been given the politician's name but, for legal reasons, can not identify the person.

"There are still unconfirmed rumours that another senior Labour politician is among the suspects. The intelligence officer said that a 'rolling' Cabinet committee had been set up to work out how to deal with the potentially ruinous fall-out for both Tony Blair and the government if arrests occur."

The Blair government has responded by imposing a comprehensive blackout on the story, effectively removing it from the domain of public discussion. Attempts on the part of this journalist to establish why the British media has not followed up on the revelations have met with a wall of silence. Editors and journalists of The Times, The Daily Telegraph, The Guardian, The Independent, The Sunday Times, The Observer, The Sunday Telegraph, The Daily Mail, The Daily Express, The Mirror, The Sun, the BBC, Independent Television News and even The Sunday Herald have refused to discuss the matter.

Call to lift veil of secrecy over Dunblane
The Guardian, February 14, 2003

Campaigners yesterday called for a review of the 100-year secrecy rule imposed on some documents seen by the inquiry into the Dunblane killings which were never made public.

The move comes after the Scottish cabinet this week instructed Scotland's most senior law officer to look again at the 100-year ban placed on a police report on Thomas Hamilton, who murdered 16 primary schoolchildren and their teacher.

There have been allegations that the lengthy closure order was placed on the report after it linked Hamilton to figures in the Scottish establishment, including two senior politicians and a lawyer.
There has been much speculation about the identity of the politicians in the report. It is known that in June 1996 Michael Forsyth, then Scottish secretary and MP for Stirling, congratulated Hamilton on running a boys' club in Dunblane.


Ritual abuse, pedophilia, murder, and the charge of a government cover-up
The Telegraph, August 17, 2001

Five years after the bodies of four murdered Belgian girls were discovered at houses owned by the paedophile Marc Dutroux, the father of one of them has accused the country's police and justice system of a cover-up ensuring that his trial has still not begun.

The claims by Paul Marchal, father of An Marchal, who was 17 when she disappeared in 1995, echo what many Belgians now privately believe: that Dutroux and his paedophile ring had connections with high-ranking members of the establishment in Belgium.

In a country that is becoming inured to corruption in public life, the theory of a cover-up is now increasingly accepted as the real reason why the Dutroux case has yet to come to court.

Belgium's X Files
BBC, May 2, 2002

There appears to be a steel veil drawn over the facts at the highest level and no one is prepared to expose those involved in this blatant cover-up.
The official answer is that a series of hysterical conspiracy theories forced investigators to search for paedophile networks, which didn't exist. But for observers of this debacle, that's exactly what didn't happen.

Far from being investigated, leads pointing to a network seem rather to have been blocked or buried.

More from David McGowan:

Adding further fuel to the fire, as a Los Angeles Times report revealed, were claims by “a highly regarded children’s activist, Marie-France Botte … the Justice Ministry is sitting on a politically sensitive list of customers of pedophile videotapes.” The same report noted, “the affair has become further clouded by the discovery of a motorcycle that reportedly matches the description of one used in the 1991 assassination of prominent Belgian businessman and politician Andre Cools. Michel Bourlet, the head prosecutor on the pedophile case, meanwhile, has publicly declared that the investigation can be thoroughly pursued only without political interference. Several years ago, Bourlet was removed from the highly charged Cools case, which remains unsolved.”
Outrage continued to grow as more arrests were made and evidence of high-level government and police complicity continued to emerge. One of Dutroux's accomplices, businessman Jean-Michel Nihoul, confessed to organizing an ‘orgy’ at a Belgian chateau that had been attended by government officials, a former European Commissioner, and a number of law enforcement officers. A Belgian senator noted, quite accurately, that such parties were part of a system “which operates to this day and is used to blackmail the highly placed people who take part.”


Portugal rocked by child sex scandal
Allegations that a child sex ring has been operating out of state-run children's homes in Portugal for decades has prompted intervention by President Jorge Sampaio.
BBC, May 29, 2003

The developments sparked an outcry in Portugal, particularly when it was reported that a former president and several government ministers, as well as the police, knew of the allegations as far back as the early 1980s but failed to take action.

"Faced with the horror that so many children, who were entrusted to us to be educated and cared for, were victimised it is necessary to declare here that the president is certain that the guilty will be severely punished," President Sampaio said in a speech.

The latest high-profile arrests are of men publicly accused of sex abuse by former children of Casa Pia, Portugal's largest network of homes for troubled children.

Casa Pia first made the headlines following allegations that an employee at the institution allegedly helped wealthy child molesters to meet young boys in his care for over two decades.


Chilean elites caught in child porn ring
Boston Globe Jan 12 2004

VALPARAISO, Chile -- Congresswoman Maria Pia Guzman is a strait-laced conservative who has suddenly and unexpectedly become an outcast at the Congress building here. Sometimes her follow legislators murmur an insult when she comes within earshot: "Witch!"

Guzman did not unleash the sex scandal now rocking Chile's political and social elite, a sordid tale centered around a millionaire businessman and some runaway teenagers.

But she did publicly link a handful of congressmen and senators to the case, suggesting some of her own political allies might be involved in an alleged ring of prostitution and child pornography. And for that, some of her fellow legislators will not forgive her.

When she gets in an elevator with other congressmen, they often step out. "There is a very strong psychological warfare going on," Guzman said in an interview in her Valparaiso office. Lighting a cigarette, she added: "Before this case, I had stopped smoking."


Mob In Mexico Burns Two Federal Agents Alive
AP, November 24, 2004

MEXICO CITY -- A crowd angry about recent child kidnappings cornered plainclothes federal agents taking photos of students at a school on Mexico City's outskirts and burned the officers alive, the latest example of mob justice in a country beset by corrupt police and high crime.
The violence began in the early evening, when locals collared three men staking out a school in the San Juan Ixtlayopan neighborhood. The area has been tense since two youngsters disappeared and were feared kidnapped from the school. Some in the crowd appeared to believe the agents were kidnappers. When asked about complaints that authorities had failed to respond to demands to investigate the disappearances, Figueroa said a full schedule had prohibited federal authorities from concentrating on the case.

The National Security State's Left-Hand Path

But let's leave sex for a moment, to talk about magic. Before we talk about both.

We've already engaged in some high speculation with respect to the hidden hand of Aleister Crowley in the occult subtext of the National Security State. Perhaps, just perhaps, Crowley's "Amalantrah Working" had succeeded in creating a dimensional portal, through which the prototypical "Grey," whom he called Lam, crossed. And that the "Babalon Working" of his American adepts, Jet Propulsion Laboratory's Jack Parsons and L Ron Hubbard, created a breech, initiating the modern "UFO" phenomenon.

To this understanding, the UFO phenomenon does not demonstrate extraterrestrial contact. It demonstrates a summoning.

And we should note here that if there is any credence to this, then behind the modernity lie the "Enochian entities" of the Elizabethan spiritualist Dr John Dee, who was "almost certainly a prime mover in the 'Illuminati' and 'Rosicrucian Brotherhoods' of that time, which played a central role in the birth of modem science."

Let's consider this UFO case, from July 6, 1959. Major Robert Friend, the acting chief of "Project Blue Book" at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, was asked to travel to Washington to evaluate a discovery of Naval Intelligence. Two officers had traveled to Maine the month before, to meet a woman "who claimed to be in contact with extraterrestrials":

The officers met the woman and watched her enter a trance and become a “communications link.” The woman sat mesmerized. Only her arm from the elbow down moved. It scribbled out meaningless circles interspersed with legible letters. They spoke questions to which answers appeared within the scribbling. The answers indicated they were coming from a kind of space patrol leader named “AFFA.”

According to the officers a number of unverifiable answers were offered to such questions such as, “What is the population of Jupiter?” Among other things, AFFA said he and his men were part of an inter-solar-system police force investigating atomic tests on Earth. But more interestingly, the Navy intelligence men posed questions incompatible with her education of technical understanding- questions like “What is the length of the Uranus ‘ day?” and “What is the distance between Jupiter and the sun at Jupiter’s apogy?” “Her” answers were correct, the two incredulous investigators later reported to Friend.

About 2 p.m. July 6, 1959, at a secret government office concealed on the top story of a garage at 5th and K St., N.W., Washington, D.C., one of the two commanders, just back from Maine, went into a trance during which he wrote messages which indicated they were from an individual named “AFFA.” AFFA’s origin: planet Uranus.

Another Navy intelligence and a civilian intelligence officer were present.

Among the more interesting interchanges later reported to Friend were the following:

Q. It’s very interesting that we are talking with someone that we can see, but can see have proof of your existence?

A. What kind of proof do you want?

Q. Can we see you or your craft?

A. When do you want to see?

Q. Now.

A. Go to the window.

All the intelligence people went to the window, where they saw a UFO fly by (i.e.) not stationary) a short distance away. As they later told Friend it was saucer shaped and brighter around the perimeter than in the center.

The confusion that followed ended the communication with AFFA.

Of interest to us here is the fact that "AFFA" is a word in the "angelic" Enochian language given Dee by the entities which had contacted him in the 17th Century. "AFFA" means "nothing," or "empty."

Jacques Vallee has contributed much to an understanding of the deceptive, tricksterish characteristics of UFO contact; its irrationality; and its continuity with folkloric phenomena of ages past. When people have expected angels or faeries, they have recorded contact with entities claiming to be the same. When human consciousness came to accept extraterrestrials as a more plausibile conduit of supra-human contact, then entities began identifying themselves as visitors from Venus, Uranus, Zeta Reticuli or wherever.

Crowley reintroduced Enochian magic to modern followers of the "left hand path" of spiritual dissent while with the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn. He rearticulated it when he was initiated into the Ordo Templi Orientis.

Dr John Dee and Aleister Crowley:

Crowley's occult signature is "sex magick." Depending on the desired effect, it may be practiced autoerotically, with a partner or multiple partners. It is always ritualized. The "workings" of Crowley and Parsons were founded in this principle. (In Parson's record of the Babalon Working, when he writes "invocation of wand with material basis on talisman," he is describing masturbation and ejaculation. In Sex and Rockets: the Occult World of Jack Parsons, John Carter describes it as a "symbolic fertilizing of Parsons' desire through a very literal application.")

It may sound silly, and almost quaint. To the materialist, all magical thinking is, at best, no more than that. But let's turn to Crowley's MAGICK in Theory and Practice, and it sounds neither:

But the bloody sacrifice, though more dangerous, is more efficacious; and for nearly all purposes human sacrifice is the best.

The animal should therefore be killed within the Circle, or the Triangle, as the case may be, so that its energy cannot escape. An animal should be selected whose nature accords with that of the ceremony--thus, by sacrifcing a female lamb one would not obtain any appreciate quantity of the fierce energy useful to a Magician who was invoking Mars. In such a case a ram would be more suitable. And this ram should be virgin--the whole potential of its original total energy should not have been diminished in any way. For the highest spiritual working one must accordingly choose that victim which contains the greatest and purest force. A male child of perfect innocence and high intelligence is the most satisfactory and suitable victim.

It's worth recalling here, that in the first part of my interview with mind control survivor Kathleen Sullivan, she describes the religious pracitices of her abusers and handlers as those "promoted by Great Britain’s Aleister Crowley. Those practices are especially bestial and dangerous – especially for children." And that her father, her "primary mental programmer and tormentor, was big into the teachings and practices of Aleister Crowley."

By the Second World War, Crowley was already an asset of British intelligence. According to Gerald Suster's The Legacy of the Beast, it was on Crowley's advice to the Director of Naval Intelligence that Winston Churchill adopted the V-sign, as a symbolic counter to the swastika, and the "thumbs up," which signalled not only victory, but sexual magic.

Imagine what must have been swept up by the Allies at war's end, in Project Paperclip. Not only Nazi science, but the esoteric knowledge of Himmler's Ahnenerbe, the Nazi Occult Bureau.

From Michael Fitzgerald's Storm-Troopers of Satan: an Occult History of the Second World War:

Hardly an occult theory escaped the attention of the Nazis, especially in Himmler's Occult Bureau and the German navy. It cannot be stressed too often that the world as perceived by the Nazis was a magical cosmos. As such, anything which could assist them in their aims of world domination through magical means was eagerly grasped. And in every case, where the choice existed between a positive and negative symbol, the Nazis opted for the negative, evil version. In this respect they demonstrated their consistent adherence to a conscious and deliberate Satanism, an attempt to establish a religion of blood and destruction.... Probably at no time in recent history has the world come closer to falling under the domination of a group of initiates serving consciously Satanic ends.

Now consider this: if Paperclip brought together the esoteric knowledge of "left-hand path" Anglo and Germanic secret schools in the "fight against communism," how would we recognize it today?

And let's just suppose - and I'll grant it's a big suppose, even in this context, and even with such supporting evidence as exists, since it beggers not only our credulity but our decency - that there is an international network of paedophilic elites. The question ought to be, why? Can it really all be attributed to the indulgence of forbidden desires? Or could it have an esoteric dimension - might it be about power? And not in the usual, true sense of power in abusive relations. I mean, in the esoteric sense. The Crowleyan sense. The sense of sex magick.


Well. Welcome to my scary mind.

I'm beginning to feel a bit like a down-market version of the Tom Cruise character in Eyes Wide Shut, who went looking for a good time and found instead an Illuminati sex ritual. I know the code that got me in; I just don't know the code that can get me out.

I didn't expect to find myself here, entertaining the "I"-word. I mean, come on; could this be something like the world: a populace molified on sucker faiths like the "New Age" Maitreya and a Moonified Christianity, while paedophilic Luciferians, allied to transdimensional tricksters, practice Crowley's law of "Do what thou wilt"?

The final word to Jacques Vallee. In Masters of Deception, he writes that when alleged communication with UFO occupants "touches on political subjects, [it] tended to emphasize totalitarian images. Vorilhon, for instance, reports he was told that democracy was obsolete. Raymond Bernard was instructed to expect a 'reversal of the old values.'"

Could it be?

Shhh - it's supposed to be a secret.

The young Crowley:


Blogger Jeremy said...

good gravy, jeff-- be careful with this stuff. avoid small airplanes!

fwiw, you're not alone in your speculations about sex magick & UFOs, but you're certainly able to connect the dots better than anyone i've ever come across in my meanderings . . . .

1:14 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ah, I always like the stuff coming into the electric binary flows when Jeff gets into the EARLY hours of the morning.

This is CREEPY stuff, but, as I said, following the Crowley post a week or two back, I'd come to the same conclusions. Nazis, ufos, blood cults, demonology..whereever you start, the more you learn, the more a strange piece of the puzzle slips into your pocket, one that unnervingly fits in a completely (to most people) unrelated subject or occurance.

Following up all the threads to so many things that REALLY matter, this is where so much of it leads.

The vast majority of the western world are, and will remain, oblivious to it.

The greatest ironic twist to it all is the hordes of 'Christian' Americans who have swallowed the twaddle that Bush is THEIR man, serving their cause. That their Boy is to be encouraged to pull the slot machine handle of Armageddon because, well, he's on, er, the right side.

1:25 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jeff says:

I didn't expect to find myself here, entertaining the "I"-word. I mean, come on; could this be something like the world: a populace molified on sucker faiths like the "New Age" Maitreya and a Moonified Christianity, while paedophilic Luciferians, allied to transdimensional tricksters, practice Crowley's law of "Do what thou wilt"?'

Down the rabbit hole, is it?
Check this:

Race Against Evil: The Secret Missions of the Interpol Agent Who Tracked the World's Most Sinister Criminals
by David Race Bannon

Bishop/Bishop/ Bishop

'Fonzi spends much energy trying to establish that CIA heavyweight David Atlee Phillips was the "Maurice Bishop" that Alpha 66 founder Antonio Veciana saw with Oswald before the assassination. He convinces his readers on this point, but since there's no corroboration for Veciana's story that Bishop met Oswald, it's unclear where this leaves us. The most interesting portions of the book, therefore, revolve around Fonzi's occasional evidence of disinformation and false leads planted in the paths of Committee investigators, apparently by U.S. intelligence assets.'
ISBN 1-56025-052-6

heh... scary mind?
more like realpolitik

perhaps the rabbit will finally be pulled from the hat...


1:52 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

oops...the Bishop comment:



1:55 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Malachi Martin, The Keys of This Blood:

"Most frighteningly for [Pope] John Paul [II], he had come up against the irremovable presence of a malign strength in his own Vatican and in certain bishops’ chanceries. It was what knowledgeable Churchmen called the "superforce." Rumors, always difficult to verify, tied its installation to the beginning of Pope Paul VI’s reign in 1963. Indeed Paul had alluded somberly to "the smoke of Satan which hasentered the Sanctuary"... an oblique reference to an enthronement ceremony by Satanists in the Vatican. Besides, the incidence of Satanic pedophilia—rites and practices— was already documented among certain bishops and priests as widely dispersed as Turin, in Italy, and South Carolina, in the United States. The cultic acts of Satanic pedophilia are considered by professionals to be the culmination of the Fallen Archangel’s rites."

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2:16 PM  
Blogger Derek said...

I think you're on to something here. Too bad I'm at work and don't have time to follow these threads. It's very much like what my wife and I are writing and we've just scratched the surface.

This fascination with deviant sexuality has been part of the luciferian plan for a long time--see chapter 6 of the book of Genesis and the longer version in I Enoch.

3:25 PM  
Blogger c.e.shinola said...

Great googly-moogly! what a post! Where to start... First, as always, a very fine post Jeff, hats off.

I am, though, a devout skeptic and when I run across a funny smelling story I first look for what sticks out - most often because it runs contrary to my own experience or seems flat-out impractical.

"Sexy Beast" is a great (and crazy) movie, (if you've seen it maybe you know where I'm going with this) the second half of which depicts a particular segment of the criminal underground of London, a homosexual segment, which by virtue of it's affinities, rubs shoulders with corrolary segment of the wealthy and powerful:
In the realm of rarified tastes, often unlikely intersections arise.

Re: Power.
Sex is a very very effective cudgel - look at Clinton and how his proclivities (quaint within the current context) were turned against him. The threat of more esoteric proclivites, ones that are perhaps less accessible to joe public or even illegal/massively destructive, thus present an even bigger cudgel.
(I think Jeff was spot on with his joining Moon's Wash. Times expose on the male prost. scandal of Bush Sr.s term.)

So, I guess I can work with Satanism/Sex/Magick - sure - and it pulling together diverse groups who work on one another in interesting ways. Yes.

What I can't work with is... the abscence of the banal. Even in the most extraordinarily well equiped S&M dungeon, you have to have a floor drain, and that sometimes gets clogged and so you need some draino, and (here's the rub) where's the cabinet where you put that?

The banal in the Gannon/Guckert scandal lies (to me) in how he describes himself, esp. on NPR, and instantly makes him believable.
It's the utter void of the banal RE UFO's that makes me look askance. I know, you address that. But. I guess I'm asking - do Aliens go to the bathroom? Where?

4:18 PM  
Anonymous AFFA Jr. said...

It's all true.

4:20 PM  
Anonymous Cliff said...

Jeff, a great post as always.

I share your creeped-out-ness at the way these things can suddenly feel so credible, especially at 3 AM. I think there is a darker underbelly than most credit but I'd really rather not believe it is as dark as all that. I fear it may be, however.

If reality is that dark, though -- who is on the good side? For surely, if *all* the powerful folks were in the *one* satanic conspiracy, things would have been a lot worse for everybody by now. Wouldn't multiple conspiracies struggling in the night be more plausible?

Apropos of which, I'm curious about your familiarity or lack thereof with

1) Brother Blue, whose archived website apparently has been removed for legal reasons (it lived at for a while). Many of his usenet postings -- always well written and funny -- are still available on google groups. He had lots to say on the UFO, occult, and secret service nexus, with a keen eye and ear for disinfo, imo.

2) Robert Anton Wilson, whose work introduced me to Jacque Vallee's. I love RAW's writings, but I have long found strange his unquestioning dismissal of all satanic ritual/sexual abuse stories with the False Recovered Memory Syndrome trope -- he is ordinarily less "certain" about everything -- and his silence on the darker side of Crowleyanism (except in general, brief, "a controversial man" type comments).

Keep up the good work, stay out of small planes, tall buildings, and lonely motel rooms.

P.S. to Mr./Ms. Shinola -- I share your skepticism, and the "where do they throw out their trash" question re: great underground ufo / alien labs is a classic from Vallee. I'm not clear on where the banal is here.

And to the person who posted about Sexy Beast: I had half forgotten that. Found it very strange at the time, especially the one shot where the criminal boss is bent over and bucking in an apparent visual reference to being buggered by the parlimentarian / lord / whatever.

5:18 PM  
Anonymous Cliff said...

Erm that was also Shinola. And it was the bank president, I'm now thinking, who was going to turn off the alarms or whathaveyou. Whoever, he was clearly meant to appear aristocratic.

5:21 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The banal is on display at Start digging through some of their threads. You'll see.

5:39 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh, man I was so enjoying this blog and all its para-political info, till this.

Crowley as a Satanist? Whos practices somehow connect to some kind of occult pedophile ring, some kind of sick NWO conspiracy? Good GriefThere is simply no evidence Crowley ever engaged in any kind of Satanism, pedophilia, or even animal sacrifice.

Crowley had no love for Christianity , certainly, but he didn't believe in the literal existance of Jesus or Satan the way Christains do. Why try to worship something you don't even believe exists? Christians and other Crowley critics often quote that passage from Magick in Theory and Practice about the "bloody sacrifice" not realizing that it's all about sex magick and nothing to do with animal sacrifice. They never quote the very end of that chapter where Crowley makes that plain as day:

"You are also likely to get into trouble over this chapter unless you truly comprehend its meaning.
There is a traditional saying that whenever an Adept seems to have made a straightforward, comprehensible statement, then is it most certain that He means something entirely different. The Truth is nevertheless clearly set forth in His Words: it is His simplicity that baffles the unworthy. I have chosen the expressions in this Chapter in such a way that it is likely to mislead those magicians who allow selfish interests to cloud their intelligence, but to give useful hints to such as are bound by the proper Oaths to devote their powers to legitimate ends. "

But so what? Even if he had done animal sacrifice, so what? It's done in Haiti all the time see Maya Derens "Divine Horsemen" if you'd like to see goats and chickens sacrificed. Santaria practicioners do it too. And where do you suppose kosher meat comes from? Animal sacrifice. Big deal.

Crowley didn't invent sex magick either - the Tantics in India have been doing it for millenia, without any reference to Satanism or cults of world domination.

I've read at least three Crowley biographies, Isreal Regardie's, Colin Wilson's, and Lawrence Sutton's and there is no record anywhere from any source of any Satanism, pedophilia, or any of that nonsense. Give the old boy a rest already. He loved being notorious, and being called evil by the tabloid press and he despised Christianity but he just wasn't any kind of Satanist.

Where's the evidence?

Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law.

Indeed, but his critics always make sure to leave off the second part:

Love is the law, love under will.

This all gets into the notion of one's True Will, which basically doesn't come from your individual ego at all. The magick Crowley practiced was designed to 1) expand consciousness, 2) communicate with one's Higher Self, Genius or Holy Guardian Angel (which ever you wish to call it)so as to determine one's life purpose.

Not so spooky after all.

I don't doubt that there are pedophile rings out there, that they may have some powerfull members who cover up for them. I just don't see what that has to do with Crowley. As so many of them are Catholic priests why not suppose some Catholic, rather than Satanic, conspiracy? Just what is it about a belief in Jesus that makes priests want to rape little boys? Or is that the wrong question?

Unless you're a fundamentalist Christain, in which case everything and everyone is a servant of either Jesus or Satan whether they realise it or not. But personally, I gave up that belief system a long time ago.

6:23 PM  
Anonymous Cliff said...

Perhaps Crowley himself was innocent of the nastier practices. But that doesn't mean all who follow him -- or think they are following him -- are.

It seems credible to me there are real Satanists, i.e. people who really do believe and act as if there were a Satan whom they can get power from if they do the right stuff for. That these may be found mainly as secret societies within the Church, again, seems pretty credible to me.

I'm also pretty open to the idea that there are "good" magicians and "bad" magicians. And that it can be a pretty tricky thing figuring out who's who once you get involved -- much like figuring out who you're really working for when you've been recruited by a guy who claims to be "CIA".

Again, I don't necessarily suspect Crowley of involvement in the things being discussed here. But to me, ElRon certainly doesn't seem all sweetness and light, and it seems pretty firmly established that he and JP were into TMT.

That there might be a dark version of Sex Magick practiced by some is surely not unthinkable.

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

An Amazon review of "Enochian World of Aleister Crowley: Enochian Sex Magick"

There is no doubt that the method presented by Mr. Crowley works. But one must ask, precisely what does the user accomplish? What is completely ignored in this Western tradition is that the consciousness, that which we seek to awaken is a polarity: it can awaken positively or negatively. The one who awakens positively becomes what is broadly acknowledged as a master: one who has transcended all known laws and is moves in a world far beyond our conceptions. Yet, the same is true of the Black Master, for he also moves according to different laws. The distinction is this: the White Master frees himself of all bonds through the release of his own consciousness from the prison of the mind. This is accomplished through Willpower and Imagination, utlizing ancient methods and techniques long hidden from the common man. It is, in synthesis, the destruction of the ego which frees the soul from its cage. The Black Master does the opposite: by indulging in his desires, by feeding his craving for power, for sensations, he condenses the mind, the ego, and makes it very concentrated. The primary method used by both is also similar: the use of the most potent force in the universe: sexual energy. However, the distinction here is also most clear: the White path demands the renunciation of animal desire, the destruction of attachment, the freedom from sensation. The Black path demands animal behavior, destruction, and the most gruesome crimes against oneself and others. All the works of Mr. Crowley teach how to awaken the consciousness while strengthening the ego and the animal mind. This is pure, unadulaterated Black Magic. What he does NOT teach is the end result of said work: the accumulation of massive karma, and the unavoidable descent into the Second Death. For more information, read the works of Samael Aun Weor, especially The Perfect Matrimony, The Revolution of Beelzebub, and The Initiatic Path in the Arcana of Tarot and Kabbalah.

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

I strongly recommend Ioan Couliano's "Eros and Magic in the Renaissance" as a highly scholarly but fascinating introduction to the nature and uses of sex magic. I just flipped it open at random and found myself looking at a passage which begins:

"(ii) Manipulation of Masses and of Individuals

De vinculis in genere ("Of bonds in general") by Giordano Bruno is one of those little-known works whose importance in the history of ideas far outstrips that of more famous ones. In its frankness, indeed the cynicism of the analysis of its contents, it might be compared to Machiavelli's The Prince, especially as the subject matter of the two works is connected: Bruno deals with psychological manipulation in general, Manciavelli with political manipulation. ... Unpublished until late, little read and always misunderstood, De Vinculis in genere is nevertheless the written work that deserves to have the real and unique place of honor among theories of manipulation of the masses. Without being aware of it, the brain trusts that dominate the world have been inspired by it, have put Bruno's own ideas to practical use."

Do look for a copy of the book. You won't regret it.

And after that, you might try asking yourself the question of why Couliano was murdered, and by whom.

2:59 AM  
Blogger c.e.shinola said...

I will look for Culiano's book.
And I agree with a lot of A/C 6:23

Walking home yesterday I was thinking more about the banal and this post, and how I could make my point more clear.

Two great, inter-connected novels:
_The Cold Six Thousand_ and
_American Tabloid_
by James Ellroy - about conspiracy, and specifically of the early sixties. They very nicely illustrate the 'strange bedfellows' school of thought. People come into contact, then fall out of contact, and then into contact again, just doing the things they do - most of those things are very shady.

A great proposition for how a conspiracy is built.

Second - If Parsons and Hubbard can initiate/perform a "Babalon Working" then so should I. I know, that sounds a little pushy, but. If, after the 'Working' only Parsons and Hubbard were in contact with 'Aliens,' then that's one thing - but as soon as the 'Aliens' branch out their contact, well then, if they can open the door, anyone should be able to open the door. Assuming a hierarchy of ability is only obfuscation, I believe (and I am willing to be wrong on this). Think of Karate guys breaking bricks, or yogis holding their breath for ten+ minutes. A bit of work (maybe years' worth) - anyone can do it.

I think this is the 'banal' aspect of UFO's that I find missing, and that subsequently bothers me. That they are not ubiquitous, that they seem so fleeting, that they require a mystical "Babalon Working" to summon them. You want to catch a mouse, you put out a trap and anyone can buy a trap.

Crap, this is such a huge topic, and unfortunately the strains it pulls together are so varied (it's why I site the Ellroy novels); I agree with your premise Jeff, but the UFO thing, I think, is awry, if only in fact (as I believe you are spot on in essence. Hope that's a little clearer than mud.)

10:54 AM  
Blogger Jeff said...

Interesting thoughts, thanks.

"I think this is the 'banal' aspect of UFO's that I find missing, and that subsequently bothers me. That they are not ubiquitous...."

This reminded me of something of Vallee's, from Messengers of Deception. He makes the opposite observation: that there are too many UFOs! Particularly, too many close encounters with "aliens."

Here's some of what Vallee says:

"The first argument against the idea of flying saucers as spacecraft lies, oddly enough, in the large number of verified, unexplained sightings. In my own files [circa late 70s] I currently have approximately 2,000 cases of close encounters from every country on Earth, many of them involving occupants of various sizes and shapes. It may seem that 2,000 cases in some 20 years is not a very large number, but we are talking only about the cases that were actually reported....

"Most landings are reported to take place after 6pm. The frequency distributions that my computer studies have disclosed for every continent show this activity peaking at about 10:30pm, decreasing sharply after that time, and increasing again just before dawn. There are few reports after 6am. What could this mean? That the activity of the objects is nocturnal by nature and by choice. Then why do the reports decrease in frequency around midnight? Simply because people go to bed: after 10:30pm the number of potential witnesses is severely reduced. Then let us ask the question: how many reports would we have it people did not go to bed but stayed outside to watch those so-called "spacecraft"? The answer is, about 30,000. We would have to multiply the number of cases by a factor of 15.

"Now, this last figure does not begin to approximate the actual number of events, because we know from many independent studies that only one case in ten ever gets reported. Then we should have not 30,000, but 300,000 cases in our files! But this still isn't the whole story: most landings occur in unpopulated areas, away from dwellings. If the Earth's population were distributed evenly instead of being concentrated in city areas, how many reports would we have? Again, taking a conservative multiplying factor of ten leads to the staggering conclusion that the UFOs, if they are spacecraft engaged in a general survey of our planet, must have landed here no fewer than three million times in two decades!

"This is one of the little-recognized facts of the UFO problem that any theory has yet to explain. The theory of random visitation does not explain it. Either the UFOs select their witnesses, or they are something entirely different from space vehicles. In either case, their appearances are staged."

12:18 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

'I strongly recommend Ioan Couliano's "Eros and Magic in the Renaissance" as a highly scholarly ... And after that, you might try asking yourself the question of why Couliano was murdered, and by whom.'

here's one theory:

Eros, Magic, & the Murder of Professor Culianu
by Ted Anton

'Detailed biographical material on Culianu leaves the reader convinced that the most remarkable thing about his life was its grotesque ending in a university toilet stall. Odds are it was the work of the Romanian Securitate secret police, and Anton's cautious ambiguity is at times uncalled-for. However, the book serves to keep this victim of skullduggery from being yet another forgotten statistic.'

Crowley has certainly become the favorite whipping-boy of the papist set. Given his highly visible persona,deliberately devised to set him center stage, that's not surprising.
As another anonymous cited:

' "Enochian World of Aleister Crowley: Enochian Sex Magick"

'There is no doubt that the method presented by Mr. Crowley works. But one must ask, precisely what does the user accomplish? What is completely ignored in this Western tradition is that the consciousness, that which we seek to awaken is a polarity: it can awaken positively or negatively.'

tx for the reference

also, c.e.shinola, tx for the two Ellroy titles; am ordering 'em as we speak.



12:19 PM  
Blogger catalytic said...

The Power Elite have all kinds of strange ideas about themselves, and the world we live in, if you think some of the research done has validity.

The book, The Stargate Conspiracy has some interesting things to say about that subject:

"Few of the enthusiastic followers of the Face on Mars story realise that the ideas of both Richard Hoagland and James Hurtak - the main advocates of the Mars/Giza connection - are largely shaped by a highly influential cultish group who claim direct, telepathic communication with extraterrestrial intelligences. These alleged non-human entities have, we were to discover, adopted many different aliases over the course of several decades, but today are most often known as the Council of Nine, or simply 'the Nine.'

...As we progressed in our investigation... we were astonished, not to say disturbed, by the influence exerted by the people who believe in the Nine - and ultimately, the Nine themselves. We gradually uncovered evidence of the extraordinary hold that these alleged non-human intelligences have over top industrialists, cutting-edge scientists, popular entertainers, radical parapsychologists and key figures in military and intelligence circles. We were to find that the Nine's influence even extends to the threshold of the White House itself."

Then there is the Chris Floyd article, where it proves that the White House believes in one of the more influential New Age ideologies, YCYOR:

First, the top Bush insider mocked the journalist and all those "in what we call the reality-based community," i.e., people who "believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality." Suskind's attempt to defend the principles of reason and enlightenment cut no ice with the Bush-man. "That's not the way the world really works anymore. We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality," he said. "And while you're studying that reality, we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors ... and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do."

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9:55 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You probably already saw this, but in case you didn't.
Crowley has always seemed to me like Hubbard seems and some other alpha-male figures - all bull-moose sui generis, and yet...
It's more than likely our comprehension of the spirit world, or the other side, or whatever people mean by those terms, is like our understanding of the physical world. Things you can touch seem to be solid and clearly evident, but the more you know the less that's true. It's a solidity of convenience, an illusion - like the sun and the moon being the same size, because they look that way in the sky.
Magic is technology. Money's a non-existent fiction that controls our lives.
Hermes Trismegistus airmails a box of useful tools to the Medici across a millenium and half a continent, and the record shows it showed up, but the record doesn't show how.
I can send a live image and the sound of my voice to someone on the other side of the world, and they can do the same, we can talk in real time as though we were together in the same room. I can carry a ton of steel a hundred miles in an hour one-handed, with a tap of my foot and a flick of my wrist. Both of those I can do while sitting down. Men who couldn't write two lines of good poetry carry the power to destroy whole nations around with them, all day long as a matter of course; while decent people are waking up to the impossible dilemma of having to destroy the world of their grandchildren to feed their own children now.
Alignment, balance, imbalance, selfishness, sacrifice. All that stuff colors everything, drives everything, makes all the difference in how things go. Numerology and astrology and necromancy and fundamentalist Judeo-Christian witchcraft. At the core it's all just maggots turning in a corpse.
Or a flower in its green fuse pushing up through the dirt and shit.
Football gets you used to choosing sides, the Super Bowl gets you used to the big showdown. The owners in their skyboxes enjoy themselves and never really lose, no matter who wins the game on the field.

1:53 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ah, Crowley. See, the problem is really that Crowley's writings were, more or less, deliberately shocking because of his own lack of love for Christianity. However, his followers took the word literally. If you're creepily obsessed with power, you don't tend to read between the lines...and if you're part of the Nazi occult bureau, you definitely don't have a sense of humor, no matter how black, about what you're tangling with.

In the end, it doesn't matter whether or not there are actually UFOs or transdimensional entities. (I'd recommend Patrick Harpur's Daimonic Reality for a good-natured view on the Other World that's both sincerely engaged with the subject and also keeping its distance enough to see the big picture.) What matters is that people believe there are. And if you're using sex magick for ends of power, well, then you get a fascinatingly unhealthy mix of fucked-up power fetishism. If you literalize it -- if, indeed, you think you can only gain power through "sacred buggery", the more innocent, the better -- well, belief is a scary thing once it runs away from you.

So ritualized pedophilia? If you have twisted sex and power together, it's not far off base. And if you were that type of person, if you were one of "history's actors," wouldn't you craft your life -- and the world around you -- to allow you to pursue your desires, no matter the cost to anyone else?

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Blogger Seosamh said...

Jeff Wrote:

And let's just suppose - and I'll grant it's a big suppose, even in this context, and even with such supporting evidence as exists, since it beggers not only our credulity but our decency - that there is an international network of paedophilic elites

I'm not sure I like the sound of the above Jeff. The whole truth will NEVER be found if we are going to let our sacred cows stand in the way. If there is evidence for a world wide cabal of elite paedophiles then so be it, and to hell with what we would like to think. It is just such pandering to our subjectivity that allows "them" to get away with it. As for decency; it is a mistake to ascribe to others qualities that we ourselves alone possess.

11:40 AM  
Blogger c.e.shinola said...

I think you are dead on with your depiction of high wierdness. viz sex and power/ sex and magick. but I have this niggle -

Acting out transgressive acts, doing things that are transgressive (go against the 'norms') of society can be/is empowering. Whether you do them in private or public - in the doing of them lies their power. (and I think the greater the transgression, the greater the _sense of_ power in the enactor- reading about serial killers there is always the phase where they test it out, killing, either on an animal or play-acting. And then find it empowering, and go on to bigger prey.)

People who do engage in these acts, then feel, having gone through an experience that sets them apart from the 'norm', 'supra-normal.' And maybe, then, this makes them feel less (leading to _not_) constrained by the same societal mores the rest of us squares (even if those mores are just in their own head). This could lead you to think to do things other people wouldn't, and maybe those things would bring you more power - familiar with the boundarys, you become comfortable living there. (Think about guys who fight a lot, they are always more comfortable confronting someone else (sometimes frighteningly so).)

As an aside: (Look at the Art of Joel Peter Witkin. Now that is some way-high fucking strangeness - but also enormously powerful. Read up on him and you'll see he is also practising 'Magick', though he might not think of it that way.)(Or think of the brother who made "The Matrix" who is now (I think officially) a woman. Someone crawled into his head, and worked some serious fucking Magick on him. (and the banality of it is that he had to go to a hospital and some nurse prepping him was probably thinking "this poor son of a bitch really got his head turned around" while for him it was an entirely different thing.)

I think maybe what I'm trying to get at is I dis-agree with your trying to seperate two things which - I think that I think - are inseperable.

"... might it be about power? And not in the usual, true sense of power in abusive relations. I mean, in the esoteric sense. The Crowleyan sense. The sense of sex magick."

Power is not always abusive, and I think to the powerless (how-ever relative that powerless-ness might be) the power-holder must have a strong component of 'sex magick/ esoteric power to him. That is, just holding power is a largely 'esoteric' act...

If you were to tell me that Hubbard had lured Parsons (or maybe it was the other way around), into the desert to seduce him (and seduce not merely in sexual terms, but maybe any other variety of _erm_ perversion) then I have no problem - because that's what humans do. . What I can't really buy is that they were responsible for bringing about a rash of experiences in so many other people. That is, maybe they go out to the desert and Parsons tells Hubbard this secret that then turns into "Aliens", some secret such as, we've been looking into Tesla's theories and think we've found something interesting. I don't mean this as a critiscism - I've had 'mystical' experiences (that I won't bore you with) that have led me to think of my 'world' in whole new ways, and I don't mean to rail against the story. but I don't think Men go out into the desert to enact a "working" with the intention of summoning some other-worldly power unless they want to harness that power for themselves, and maybe they only think to dream up the story they about the 'working' afterwards to give a good shine to that esoteric quality they maintain over the other.

I think UFO's being about people projecting their 'hopes and fears' is very on the money, and as you slip into the less accessible realms of experience, the wierdness of the experience gets only greater....

Jesus, I have to get back to work.

Yes, your post absolutely hit a nerve. G.P.Bishop is banal - he wants to molest teen-age boys, at times maybe that is convenient for people with other aims to exploit this desire of his, even facilitate it (maybe even indulge in it to see if they can gain more power from it). He becomes a conduit in that sense, for other people. (And I think you've proven clearly that he is)

UFO's on the other hand are absolutely not banal, there is nothing about their behavior that to me is recognizable as 'everyday', much less commonplace, and for that reason I'll always think twice about them until I get picked up myself!

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Before you slander Crowley, don't you think you ought to have at least understood him?

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obat kutil di alat vital - obat kutil kelamin pada alat vital - obat kutil di miss v
obat kutil di mr p - cara mengobati kutil di alat vital miss v -pengobatan kutil di miss v
cara mudah dan aman mengatasi kutil di miss v

3:59 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

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1:32 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

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9:03 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

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9:06 PM  

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