Thursday, May 26, 2005

Gosch case implicates CIA, US officials: Iowa TV



You who build these altars now
to sacrifice these children,
you must not do it anymore.
- Leonard Cohen


We'll see what comes of this report by KWWL, but it's at least encouraging to see a mainstream broadcaster play this material as straight news, and not "Now, here's what some crazy people are saying." Perhaps, as I suggested in yesterday's post, the weirdness to the world that many people are now perceiving is catching up to the weird reality that's been there all along. So maybe, at last, it doesn't sound so crazy to talk about the CIA's hand in the abduction of children for prostitution. Maybe it's just about staring down the facts.

And I have to say, the absence of Ted Gunderson in all of this is also an encouraging sign.

New Leads In The Johnny Gosch Case

A cold case is heating up. Iowa paperboy Johnny Gosch vanished without a trace in 1982. But, now, after KWWL's story last month on Johnny's disappearance, there is new information on the case.

A private investigator working Johnny's disappearance believe his kidnapping was part of a government conspiracy. The investigator shared new evidence with KWWL and it could be the break needed to solve this case. That evidence includes a recorded phone call that has never been heard publicly, until now.

During the early morning of September 5, 1982, Johnny Gosch was kidnapped from a West Des Moines neighborhood while delivering newspapers. It was silent, quick and professional. "This man has told us that at the end of their investigation that there were 834 kids involved that were kidnapped," says James Rothstein. He's talking about a former CIA agent who must remain anonymous.

Rothstein is a former New York City police detective, now a private investigator working the case for Johnny's mother, Noreen. And within the last couple weeks, Rothstein has uncovered new evidence linking Johnny's kidnapping to child prostitution. "It basically came down to one thing and one thing only. You know, it was money. These kids were being grabbed to satisfy the malignant, twisted, you know, evil depravity of very powerful individuals who have the money," he says.

Rothstein is talking about individuals who would spend as much as $10,000 to have sex with young boys and girls. And this new evidence points to the involvement of U.S. government officials. "They were using kids to compromise people. And what better way to compromise somebody than get a young boy with a politician or some powerful person that may be in the military or whatever and then you can compromise them and get what ever you want."


Rothstein's former-CIA contact told him the agency was involved in the abductions and tried to cover it up: "We were specifically ordered to clear our name. This would make the American agency look pretty shitty, like we're all a bunch of fucking child molesters."

The report adds that "while Gannon's true identity still can't be confirmed, Rothstein says the more clues he uncovers, the possibility Gannon may be Gosch increases." So maybe that book's not closed yet, either.

This is what kicking at the darkness feels like. One of these days, it can't help but bleed daylight.

41 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

The truth shall set us free.



Or not.

12:09 a.m.  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The truth will indeed make us free.

12:30 a.m.  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Pax Puts Gannon on Polygraph
By John Eggerton -- Broadcasting & Cable, 5/25/2005 3:25:00 PM

PAX TV may be cutting back on original programming, but at least one original series still on the schedule is putting a couple of high-profile figures in the hot seat.

On original series, Lie Detector, Jeff Gannon, the conservative blogger whose softball questions and run of the White House press room became a national story, hooks himself up to a polygraph to try and prove he is an independent journalist rather than a tool of the Bush administration.
http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/CA603929.html?display=Breaking+News

1:34 a.m.  
Blogger ghostieo said...

If Gosch is Guckert do you think he knows it or is it more likely that his memory has been washed?

3:08 a.m.  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ancient Greek saying: You can't outrun all your pursuers.

Get enough people chasing the right people, you bring them down - no matter how rich or powerful or invisible.

5:07 a.m.  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The truth shall set us free... or make us dead. Sorry, just in that place at the moment.

"Got to kick at the darkness 'til it bleeds daylight"

Bless you for that, really need that sentiment now. One of my favorites.

Keep kicking, no matter what happens, keep kicking!

PW

5:26 a.m.  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Gannon-Gosch thing is pretty much a dead deal, isn't it?

Someone on DU went to his high school and got old yearbooks with photos indicating that James Guckert actually DID graduate in the mid-70's, while Johnny gosch was still in diapers.

For Gannon to be Gosch would require some fairly crazy wielding of Occam's Razor. Whatever happened to Johnny Gosch, I don't think it involved becoming a prostitute / White House "reporter".

7:11 a.m.  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If Gannon is Gosch and he retains memory of what the CIA did to him, maybe he's blackmailing people in the government. That also might explain why he seems to have free access to the White House and all his lengthy visits on days when there were no press briefings.

8:27 a.m.  
Blogger Jeff Wells said...

When I saw Gannon's name my heart sank a little, because I worried that would overshadow the real news here, which is that Rothstein has taped a former agent saying that the CIA had a hand in the abduction and prostitution of nearly 1,000 children. And that seems to be happening.

We can only speak with confidence about what Gannon is, and there's enough right there that recalls the Craig Spence White House ring to make some people nervous, even if we never know exactly who he is.

I've thought it increasingly unlikely that Gannon is Gosch, but I don't know what Rothstein knows. Hopefully the circus has left town, and the truth will be known. But one way or the other, that isn't the most important story here.

8:50 a.m.  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"the real news here, which is that Rothstein has taped a former agent saying that the CIA had a hand in the abduction and prostitution of nearly 1,000 children."

Not so fast. Roth has CLAIMED to have taped someone who CLAIMS to be a former CIA agent.

There isn't one alleged fact there that we can verify in the slightest at this time.

Regarding the statement about the DU posting on the yearbook: while the local high school had copies of yearbooks, it was the local public library's copy that was inspected.

10:20 a.m.  
Blogger Jeff Wells said...

The article says Rothstein shared the evidence with the station, including the recorded phone call. So the tape certainly exists. Now, whether the person on the other end really is a former CIA agent - or whether, even if he is, he's telling the truth - naturally that can't be independently confirmed right now. But still, that is the story here.

10:32 a.m.  
Blogger Jeff Wells said...

A story today about a more recent unsolved Idaho abduction case:

COEUR D'ALENE, Idaho - Sheriff Rocky Watson doesn't have anything to go on — no suspects, no leads, no motive. But he has hope that a boy and his little sister will be found safe.

"I have a need to believe those children are still alive," Watson said.

Dylan Groene, 9, and Shasta Groene, 8, were abducted a week and a half ago, probably after they witnessed their mother, her boyfriend and an older brother being bound and then bludgeoned to death inside their rural home, authorities say.

After searching across the Northwest and fielding more than 1,150 tips, the FBI and local investigators say they have no idea why the victims were killed and the youngsters taken.

link

11:43 a.m.  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

isn't there an implicit correlation between the way the current 'administration' operates, and the 'individuals' posited as the pederasts?

The same contempt, the same imperiousness.

Also, I thought it was a given that Gannon was 'dating' someone in the W.H., hence his access.

And the Greeks had it right, enough people start chasing this, maybe it'll start going somewhere.

But not culminating in some big, loud, cataclysmic-sounding way. Maybe we won't even hear it for a year or so after the fact

12:54 p.m.  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Derek,

I agree. That's my experience.

4:38 p.m.  
Blogger spyder said...

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http://www.targetofopportunity.com/index.html

5:30 p.m.  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Post a little truth and the disinfo folks come out swinging, eh, Jeff? The CIA's pedophilia blackmail has nothing to do with the question of Gannon being Gosch. (Personally, I think if Gannon were Gosch he'd be dead now).

As they say in Star Wars: "Stay on target."

sw-- what do you mean by "that's my experience"? Do you have a story to tell here?

7:33 p.m.  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I've already told me story at length on this site.

I was sexually abused by my Dad at a very young age. My Dad was linked to Boys Town. My Mom's Dad was a agent with the Bureau of Narcotics in California. Our family later moved back to the midwest when I was around two.

I have memories of sexual abuse at the age of four by politicians one of which I believe is Bush 41. I have parts who described Bohemian Grove abuse. I have parts who were involved with MK Ultra. I have one part who was involved with the Stargate program as a remote viewer. He is only four.

I have healed mostly from DID but I am not "done" yet.

When I posted earlier today I meant that I had been sexually abused as part of the boys town ring and then pulled into the CIA program from that ring. I was never abducted. My Dad freely gave me over to the men.

I've worked for ATF for 18 years. I'm an investigative assistant. I consider my co workers to have the highest integrity. I don't know what to say about the rest of the government. I guess I'll have to wait until they (the FBI)finish investigating my recent allegations to find out what I think of them.

10:55 p.m.  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just a note of interest, did any notice that our boy Guckert was the Junior Class President? Looks like he's always had a taste for the Presidential Politics. Also, if case there are ever any future efforts to corroborate his background by interviewing a bunch of random classmates and seeing if they remember him (and, in fact, there are a couple listed here), at least it should be relatively easy. Class Presidents are far more likely to be remembered than your typical Joe (or James, as the case may be).

11:25 p.m.  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sorry for the poor spelling. It's late and I'm tired.

Wanted to add one thing. I used to think I was crazy because I would have "visions" of a specific attack on one of the federal buildings where I work in Dallas. I quit telling anyone about it because they thought I was crazy.

Later, when I was found out about the remote viewing program, it all fell together. The part, Space, who is four was the one coming forward with these terror attack visions. I had called the FBI in 2000 but they did nothing. I don't blame them. Who would follow up on some "vision."

Recently, I put the whole thing together about the remote viewer ability and Space. Because of this new knowledge, I contacted the State Department at their terror reward email site. I gave them all of the details. I have written a lot about that attack on an earlier post. The vision was always the same. Sunny Day. Between 9:10am and 9:20 am. Some type of bomb had been placed in the old rail tunnel beneath the Earle Cabell Federal Building. In 2000, there was a water main break near the federal buildings that caused extensive underground flooding. I told them this is when the bombs were placed. I told them I saw pools of dirty, standing water near the dumpster where the bomb was placed. It was very dark. I later looked up the tunnel area to see if it still existed. It does. The old tunnels are beneath the Federal Building in Dallas. The building I work in is the Santa Fe Building. I think is was built around 1924. The tunnels are still there. That fits with the visions Space has. Also, I always felt the Mossad was involved.

That's the vision I have had for five years. I told the State Department via email a little over a week ago. Never heard anything. I thought I'd give the FBI a heads up just in case this remote viewer part is accurate.

Someone told me once on this site that I was brave and foolish. I am both. I have a good soul.

I am trying to be the change I want to see in this world.

Brave. Fool. Soul Warrior.

11:36 p.m.  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am in a somewhat similar situation as you, sw.
I know I'm neither here for a good time nor a long time, so I press on and perhaps press my luck. The desire for Justice is a powerful force. Hang in there, sw.
Jim

12:13 a.m.  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

sw: the trains in particular are interested. There have been lots of 'visions/dreams' collected over at prophecies.us that involve all of the following:

a) a bomb (nuclear typically)
b) a big desert city (LA, phoenix, dallas would fit but hasn't been mentioned by name)
c) trains being involved

How does your remote viewer work? Does he/she/it take requests? I'm not being facetious, but wondering if it can be applied at your direction or whether it's completely under a will of its own.

1:25 a.m.  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In the case of this vision of the federal building attack, it happened on its own. Back in 2000 I was aware that I had a part named Space that was four years old. I didn't know much about him since he only surfaced in 1999.

He merges with me sometimes leaving us as one. In this case, I thought I was having the vision. The vision came to him just like it was "in the wind." He was not trying to have a vision, he just picked up on it. Since I work here every day, I'm not surprised that he would pick up on this attack. He has picked up on other things in the past.

I found out it was him one day because I heard him say, that's not how I do it. I had been looking for a fugitive using conventional databases. He had been trained with maps I guess. He puts his right hand over the photo. After he picks up the energy, he puts his other hand over the map until he finds a match of energy. We have a huge plotter in our office. The computer guy helped me blow up maps so that each time he could narrow it down to a smaller area. In the end, we had maps blown up to just a few houses.

My boss got angry and told me to cease and desist. I never tried to find fugitives at work again. I don't know if I could do it much more though. When he would do it, I would feel dark energy. One time, his left hand was over the country of Iran. I felt such a huge negative energy that I had to stop. The darkness of the energy overwhelmed me. I could feel it come in to me. It was heavy and dark.

The only way I can describe the energy is that it feels similar to Reiki energy. I feel it in my hands. Space feels it in his whole body but especially his hands.

I never saw anything about trains. I saw a bus bomb as part of this deal but it was involved in the initial attack on a smaller federal building. The primary target was the building where the old Santa Fe tunnels are. No trains, only a very dark old tunnel.

Space is going to integrate in a few days. His work is done. He had been the gatekeeper for the Omaha stuff. When Space is gone, I'm sure the remote viewer stuff will be gone as well. I will be happy about that part but will miss Space. No matter how dark the world seemed, Space always saw something magical and good.

Space may have been created to service the dark side but he ended up working for the good side. He spent most of his time directing energy toward people who were sick. To him it was kind of like praying except you send energy as well as prayer. Imagine walking out of a dark, cold movie theater. It's the middle of summer in Texas. When you push open the door, you are blinded by light and heat. That is what Space could do.

11:24 a.m.  
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Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jeff, All "Cookbooks" aside - my gosch...I feel a prime time DNA test comming on. Jeff Wells please help SAVE us...from...well...THEM!!!

http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Former_Jeff_Gannon_publisher_running_for_1222.html

12:02 a.m.  
Blogger ericswan said...

SW.. on the right track This reminds me a a story in British Columbia where a defendent claimed that a three year old had provoked a sexual response in the defendent. The judge gave him a suspended sentence.

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