Inoculations

Through the days of shame that are coming
Through the nights of wild distress
Though your promise count for nothing
You must keep it nonetheless - Leonard Cohen
I've been recovering this week from a nasty stomach virus. A bit like an ayahuasca ceremony without the ayahuasca, and piss-all enlightenment, too. But it's reminded me that illness is more than a metaphor, and sometimes not entirely natural.
Smallpox, for one bloody precedent. In a postscript to his letter of July 16, 1763 Lord Jeffrey Amherst, the commander of British forces in North America during the French and Indian War, instructed Colonel Henry Bouquet to "do well to try to innoculate the Indians by means of blanketts, as well as to try every other method that can serve to extirpate this execrable race." (I don't see inoculate used like that these days, except by those whom the mass culture deems to be in need of medication themselves.) Infected blankets wasn't a one-off for Amherst. In other letters he calls the natives "Vermine [who] have forfeited all claim to the rights of humanity," and expresses his desire to "put a most Effectual Stop to their very Being."
Of course that was then, before genocide was even a word, much less a crime. Though at Massachusetts' Amherst College, china plates depicting sword-wielding, mounted Englishmen in hot pursuit of Indians were still in use as late as the 1970s. Dictionaries and law books and generations of bad examples haven't crimped the style of the pro-active eugenicist.
"The forms of warfare are changing," said Russian Communist party leader Gennady Zyuganov in a Tuesday press conference. "It's strange that not a single duck has yet died in America - they are all dying in Russia and European countries. This makes one seriously wonder why." Asked whether he was suggesting Avian Flu was a US biological weapon, he replied "I not only suggest this, I know very well how this can be arranged. There is nothing strange here."
I think Zyuganov is wrong on at least a couple of points. For one thing, Lord Amherst could tell him that nothing has changed. And for another, if Avian Flu is a weapon of either design or opportunity, its intended victims are also American. Because at the top of the food chain, where it's whole nations that are consumed, the fattest and most tender of all is naturally also on the menu.
As a third US beef cow tests positive for BSE, Newspapers move US mad cow story off front pages. One infected cow is the End of the World; two is worrisome. Three, and it's yesterday's news. The horror is in the novelty. Make something bad, bad enough for long enough that it becomes part of our landscape, and we just don't care anymore. It seems whatever doesn't kill us outright we can make peace with until it kills us eventually. It's another way in which we are inoculated. And so, the alarmingly predictable development that, "Despite the confirmation of a third case of mad cow disease, the government intends to scale back testing for the brain-wasting disorder blamed for the deaths of more than 150 people in Europe."
The Democratic dithering over Feingold's modest resolution is engendering considerable counter-dithering by those who still hope to see a political solution they can recognize to a parapolitical crisis they can't imagine. "The majority of the American people agree with what the president’s doing," said a Democratic aide. "A lot of people outside the beltway see [illegal surveillance] as a tool that’s keeping Americans safe."
Illness is also a metaphor, and the sickness of American politics is not indeliberate. Democrats and Republicans have both been taking strange medicine for a long while, and those who've refused their inoculations have been prone to other kinds of magic bullets: fatal accidents and character assassinations, and the receipt of envelopes filled with white powder bearing the return address of Fort Detrick. Bush in 2006 should be the most vulnerable president since Nixon in 1974, yet he isn't. To ask why he's not may take the courage of a microbiologist.
I've been thinking of the family in Tikrit who were murdered yesterday morning in an American raid. Eleven shot to death, including five children, one as young as seven months, before their house was blown up.
Another policeman, Colonel Farouq Hussein, said autopsies had been carried out at Tikrit hospital and found "all the victims had gunshot wounds to the head". The bodies, their hands bound, had been dumped in one room before the house was destroyed, Hussein said. Police had found spent American-issue cartridges in the rubble.
Despite the eyewitness accounts and the photos of dead babies, the US Army admits to only the deaths of two women and a child, and most American reports of the incident preface the news with the advisory "Iraqis Say -". It needs reminding that, unlike three years ago, the Iraqi police and US forces are now supposedly on the same side. Though just the day before, also in Tikrit, an American "security contractor" was arrested travelling alone with explosives in his car.
Charitably, though inaccurately, the US mission in Iraq could be described as a clinical test gone horribly wrong, while the "men in smart suits," like Francis Fukuyama, make themselves scarce. But the US isn't dispensing that kind of inoculation. It isn't the neocon fable of intravenous democracy, even if it kills the patient. It's Lord Amherst's blankets.
Many German and Austrian neighbours of the camps knew well enough what happened after the box cars rolled through the gates. Still, they didn't see until the liberators forced them to walk the grounds and bury the innocent dead. The victims were foreign and faceless, and it was easy to continue believing one was a good neighbour for minding one's business.
Things are different now. The dead babies are on Yahoo, and Salon hosts hundreds of Abu Ghraib photos and videos. No people in history have had greater access to the atrocities of their own force of arms even as they are being committed. Americans are growing accustomed to the spectacle of broken and beheaded bodies, and I think that's the idea. Because it's getting old. Meanwhile, the only truly forbidden images are those of flag-drapped coffins. The Pentagon certainly wants Americans kept in the dark, but darkness can mean more than mere ignorance.
One dead baby is the End of the World. Too many dead babies and we have a new world altogether.
107 Comments:
"I think Zyuganov is wrong on at least a couple of points. For one thing, Lord Amherst could tell him that nothing has changed. And for another, if Avian Flu is a weapon of either design or opportunity, its intended victims are also American."
I am not so sure. Maybe the chemtrails are not there to harm people in North America, maybe they are there to 'inoculate' you. It never made much sense to me to indiscriminately poison your own population so maybe the opposite is happening. Maybe you are being inoculated against some engineered virus that is yet to be released. And the bird flu scare is just to get us all mentally prepared for the concept of a modern plague and to test the effectiveness of the US protection system. Try the system on the bird population first and then if the results are satisfactory it is time for the human variant to be released.
Churchill to the Palestine Royal Commission (1937):
"I do not agree that the dog in a manger has the final right to the manger even though he may have lain there for a very long time. I do not admit that right. I do not admit for instance, that a great wrong has been done to the Red Indians of America or the black people of Australia. I do not admit that a wrong has been done to these people by the fact that a stronger race, a higher-grade race, a more worldly wise race to put it that way, has come in and taken their place."
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SAS soldier refuses to fight in Iraq
http://theage.com.au/news/world/sas-soldier-refuses-to-fight-in-iraq/2006/03/12/1142098343662.html
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"After three months in Baghdad, Ben Griffin told his commander that he was no longer prepared to fight alongside American forces.
He said he had witnessed 'dozens of illegal acts' by US troops, claiming they viewed all Iraqis as 'untermenschen' - the Nazi term for races regarded as sub-human."
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Anonymous One,first off,Jeff I have felt your pain.What ever passed through your spot up above us here in upstate NY,came through my house to,that shit is for-real.I just hope they can't make that bug up anytime they like.It's time to get our tinfoil hats,on the ready.The stream of consciousnous in this place is being directed 24/7,and it is not a nice place where we are going.Sometimes you ask your self, is this possible,that people don't know what is going on? Sorry to say,no one can be forced to listen to anything you or I tell them. What ever these evil fuckers have in mind for the sheepull will smackum like a brick in the forehead,later.
i think amherst college is in massachusetts. maybe theres another in new york im unaware of.
THE HISTORICAL ROOTS OF THE NEW WORLD ORDER AND ITS PERMANENT WAR ECONOMY
A classified conference sponsored by the Los Alamos nuclear weapons lab was held in the Applied Physics Laboratory at Johns Hopkins University in November 1993. Colonel Alexander served as the conference Chairman. The meeting was attended by Attorney-General Janet Reno, numerous scientists, military weapons experts, and intelligence officials from state and local police departments. The main purpose of the meeting was to prepare leading law enforcement officials for the use of psychotronic mind-control weapons.
Zbiegniew Brzezinski, a Rockefeller recruit and founder of the Trilateral Commission, had much revealing information to give back in the seventies about technologies that are being disclosed now. He wrote in Between two Ages:
"Accurately timed, artificially excited electronic strokes could lead to a pattern of oscillations that produce relatively high power levels over certain regions of the Earth ... one could develop a system that would seriously impair the brain performance of a very large population in selected regions over an extended period." (Zbiegniew Brzezinski, Between Two Ages, 1971).
When an American electropollution activist asked Motorola the purpose of the 10 hertz frequency on the carrier wave of the new Motorola police radio system, she did not get an answer (Personal Communications with Libby Kelley, Chair Marin County Health Council, 2003). From my own investigations and many interviews, I learned that this system was beamed across America when the Cold War ended, through Motorola radio systems, the Police and emergency response radio towers, cell phone towers, satellites, and another Motorola product —TETRA—in Britain:
Costing £2.9 billion, the UK’s new police communication system TETRA has been described by one independent scientist as likely to cause ‘more civilian deaths than all the world’s terrorist organisations put together’. (Jay Griffiths, "A Popular Revolt", The Ecologist, September 17, 2004)
Death may be the hidden purpose, for "culling" society. Welcome to the New World Order.
What has made it impossible for us to live in time like fish in water, like birds in air, like children? It is the fault of Empire! Empire has created the time of history....One thought alone preoccupies the submerged mind of Empire: how not to end, how not to die, how to prolong its era. By day it pursues its enemies. It is cunning and ruthless, it sends its bloodhounds everywhere. By night it feeds on images of disaster: the sack of cities, the rape of populations, pyramids of bones, acres of desolation. A mad vision yet a virulent one.
J.M.Coetzee, Waiting for the Barbarians
another superb post Jeff.
"i think amherst college is in massachusetts. maybe theres another in new york im unaware of."
That was the one I was thinking of too. You're right, thanks; I've corrected the text.
This off-topic, but i have to ask if Jeff questions the "Holocaust" at all. Since you seem to be skeptical about so much and you made mention of "Germans and Austrian living near the camps".
Does that mean you accept and endorse this piece of propaganda against Nationalism called the "Holocaust"? That you believe this ONE bit of history while you question all else?
PS- Jeff's beloved "Peaceable Kingdom" of Canada is responsible for extraditing an elderly German-Canadian immigrant for simly being skeptical.
PPS- I am anon. but will respond in kind. This is not a provocation or troll-job. I really want to know.
PPS- I'm not a bigot, for the record.I married a Jew. So there.
"Does that mean you accept and endorse this piece of propaganda against Nationalism called the 'Holocaust'? That you believe this ONE bit of history while you question all else?"
History isn't legitimized by the virtue of being "alternative." For instance, I accept that Laura Secord really did warn Colonel Fitzgibbon of the American plan of attack before the Battle of Beaver Dams.
As I posted yesterday on the RI discussion board, holocaust denial is not a neutral topic of historical inquiry, it's a lure cast by Nazi apologists for vulnerably open minds, which exploits their fresh sense of distrust of history by suggesting that this, too, must be a lie.
Somehow, I'm fairly skeptical that Ernst Zundel, the "elderly German-Canadian immigrant" and author of The Hitler We Loved and Why, was "simply being skeptical" by denying the Holocaust.
Great post - you really nailed our national disease.
Thanks for your blog.
Hello Jeff
I have never written before and read your blog almost every day. I just want to give you a big THANKS and ask if you are every going to publish all of the articles on your blog. It would make a great book. The only reason I buy printer ink is to print out your blog articles. I was also just reading about bird flu and your latest blog sent chills down my spine. The POB will do anything to kill us. I am convinced, since the year 2000 when I woke up when the bushmonster stole the election, that they are a regime of DEATH. Iraq, Katrina,AIDS= all of it is a system of death and destruction by design. It is very scary. I never thought it could be true. But it is only too true.
I want to thank you again for this blog. It is the best on the net. Please think about putting it all in a book.
I forgot to say that I have had the flu twice this winter and I had not been sick for five years until this year. And the last flu I had was just awful and unlike anyting I had ever experienced. I dread what is coming.
...ask if you are ever going to publish all of the articles on your blog
Not all of them, but there is a book planned. I'm working on one for Trine Day that's based upon the blog. It should be published next year.
"To ask why he's not may take the courage of a microbiologist."
Many of whom are also dead, now. Along with a string of Marconi engineers.
S.
Great Post Jeff, Thanks.
The "inoculation" "metaphors" are very valid.
Using the discipline of social history to look at the secret societal control mechanism I find very revealing. In looking at Bones membership list, one notices that in the early years there was a preponderance of teachers and preachers among the usual lawyers, merchants, industrialists, government folk and bankers.
The teacher/preacher emphasis had to do with controlling the inoculations, especially during formative years. Then one notices that they started to enter into the Communications industry, i.e. Time-Life, Newsweek, CBS, Copley and others to inoculate the body politic with propaganda. Then the transportation industry, during the cocaine frenzied 70's and 80's a Bonesman was president of Beechcraft and another major private plane company, I can't remember right now, to help that "inoculation." plus Fed Ex/Kinkos is Bones-led. And Sears and K-Mart. And we have no idea who most of the members are from 1986 to 1998. So we have no notion of their activities.
Right now the system does not serve the people but simply services its own corruption while inoculating us daily through the media into "submission."
Now is the time for all good men and women to come to the aid of their country.
Peace,
Om
Kris Millegan
Jeff,
Great post again!
Thank you for mentioning the genocide perpetrated by the British on the original North Americans. The British, historically a predatory culture, are the supreme rip-off artists of the past milenia.
The U.S. represents the continuation of this destructive M.O.
It is not surprising that their is no REAL progress here. Our political insitutions ensure that there will never be.
"It just isn't politically realistic to back a project that won't pay off in time for the next relevant election cycle--even if you could find politicians that would be willing to sacrifice their own re-election for the greater good, they would still be hamstringed by the unavailability of the campaign funding on which they require, and would likely lose in the next election to a candidate who is promising a short-term benefit... We're structurally short-sighted, which goes right along with my general thesis that the structure of our institutions, much more than the individuals within them, is the real root of our problems."
Smoke & Monetary Policy
- Jeff Vail
http://www.jeffvail.net/2006/03/
smoke-monetary-policy.html
Jeff, your observation that "Illness is also a metaphor, and the sickness of American politics is not indeliberate" is correct.
You could say that the U.S. suffers from Munchausen by Proxy Syndrome....
I really think Robert Anton Wilson has created a race of rabid conspiracy mongers who go monkey on just about anything that happens in the world.
RAW reminds me of a L. Ron Hubbard sort of clever and deceptive con-artist who weaves selected aspects of the so-called "illuminati"/one-world-government crap in with smatterings of Crowley/OTO/UFO/Freemasons/etc/etc/etc for extremely naive and uncritical thinking people. If anybody actually believes that the U.S. government is actually competent enough to come up with and execute one/one-thousandths of the conspiratorial junk attributed to them... oh wait, they're getting help from the zeta reticuli greys that they signed a secret treaty with!
The gratest trick the devil ever pulled off, was making people think he didn't exist
"If anybody actually believes that the U.S. government is actually competent enough..."
Government? What is that, exactly?
Hello Jeff,
Thanks for the info about the book. I will buy it the day it comes out. I am so relieved to hear that some of the articles will be published in book form. I am running out of ink all the time trying to print everything out you have written. EVERY one of your articles is worth reading. You are an excellent writer. I can't wait for your next post. This blog keeps me sane in the insane usa.
"Secretary Rice Out to Inoculate Latin America":
"It was clearly a sign of the administration’s ongoing delusions about Latin America when on February 16, Secretary of State Rice declared that she intended to pursue an “inoculation” strategy against Venezuela, and enlist the support of a “united front” of regional nations. But Rice didn’t specify who would join that cohort, and indeed who beyond a couple of Central American banana republics, and maybe trade obsessed Chile, would be content to be a spear carrier in such an unlikely grand opera?"
To go a bit further with the 'Bones' item--and maybe this is well known and I somehow managed to miss it, but: is there a 'Bones' connection with the Dubai Ports company? I heard an interview in which the head of that company--or of a part of it?--was described as a Yale grad.
"As I posted yesterday on the RI discussion board, holocaust denial is not a neutral topic of historical inquiry, it's a lure cast by Nazi apologists for vulnerably open minds, which exploits their fresh sense of distrust of history by suggesting that this, too, must be a lie."
Such total self belief, such poor writing and what in the name of twisted fucking slime is this meant to mean.
"their fresh sense of distrust "
I believe you are a Jew who finds it convenient to keep the fact hidden. Not that it matters beside the facr you are a complete creep and an idiot who posts on his own forum under various names all with the same dismal sophistry
Ahhhhhh, another day, another US bombing campaign in Iraq.
The folks at FAIR have assembled this tiny bit of the Conservative Wisdom Archive.
Not that anyone will notice the huuuuuuuuuuge effing foot sticking out of the mouths of every Republican in this halfwit country.
Declaring Victory
"Iraq Is All but Won; Now What?"
(Los Angeles Times headline, 4/10/03)
"Now that the combat phase of the war in Iraq is officially over, what begins is a debate throughout the entire U.S. government over America's unrivaled power and how best to use it."
(CBS reporter Joie Chen, 5/4/03)
"Congress returns to Washington this week to a world very different from the one members left two weeks ago. The war in Iraq is essentially over and domestic issues are regaining attention."
(NPR's Bob Edwards, 4/28/03)
"Tommy Franks and the coalition forces have demonstrated the old axiom that boldness on the battlefield produces swift and relatively bloodless victory. The three-week swing through Iraq has utterly shattered skeptics' complaints."
(Fox News Channel's Tony Snow, 4/27/03)
"The only people who think this wasn't a victory are Upper Westside liberals, and a few people here in Washington."
(Charles Krauthammer, Inside Washington, WUSA-TV, 4/19/03)
"We had controversial wars that divided the country. This war united the country and brought the military back."
(Newsweek's Howard Fineman--MSNBC, 5/7/03)
"We're all neo-cons now."
(MSNBC's Chris Matthews, 4/9/03)
"The war was the hard part. The hard part was putting together a coalition, getting 300,000 troops over there and all their equipment and winning. And it gets easier. I mean, setting up a democracy is hard, but it is not as hard as winning a war."
(Fox News Channel's Fred Barnes, 4/10/03)
"Oh, it was breathtaking. I mean I was almost starting to think that we had become inured to everything that we'd seen of this war over the past three weeks; all this sort of saturation. And finally, when we saw that it was such a just true, genuine expression. It was reminiscent, I think, of the fall of the Berlin Wall. And just sort of that pure emotional expression, not choreographed, not stage-managed, the way so many things these days seem to be. Really breathtaking."
(Washington Post reporter Ceci Connolly, appearing on Fox News Channel on 4/9/03, discussing the pulling down of a Saddam Hussein statue in Baghdad, an event later revealed to have been a U.S. military PSYOPS operation [stunt]--Los Angeles Times, 7/3/04)
Mission Accomplished?
"The war winds down, politics heats up.... Picture perfect. Part Spider-Man, part Tom Cruise, part Ronald Reagan. The president seizes the moment on an aircraft carrier in the Pacific."
(PBS's Gwen Ifill, 5/2/03, on George W. Bush's "Mission Accomplished" speech)
"We're proud of our president. Americans love having a guy as president, a guy who has a little swagger, who's physical, who's not a complicated guy like Clinton or even like Dukakis or Mondale, all those guys, McGovern. They want a guy who's president. Women like a guy who's president. Check it out. The women like this war. I think we like having a hero as our president. It's simple. We're not like the Brits."
(MSNBC's Chris Matthews, 5/1/03)
"He looked like an alternatively commander in chief, rock star, movie star, and one of the guys."
(CNN's Lou Dobbs, on Bush's 'Mission Accomplished' speech, 5/1/03)
Neutralizing the Opposition
"Why don't the damn Democrats give the president his day? He won today. He did well today."
(MSNBC's Chris Matthews, 4/9/03)
"What's he going to talk about a year from now, the fact that the war went too well and it's over? I mean, don't these things sort of lose their--Isn't there a fresh date on some of these debate points?"
(MSNBC's Chris Matthews, speaking about Howard Dean--4/9/03)
"If image is everything, how can the Democratic presidential hopefuls compete with a president fresh from a war victory?"
(CNN's Judy Woodruff, 5/5/03)
"It is amazing how thorough the victory in Iraq really was in the broadest context..... And the silence, I think, is that it's clear that nobody can do anything about it. There isn't anybody who can stop him. The Democrats can't oppose--cannot oppose him politically."
(Washington Post reporter Jeff Birnbaum-- Fox News Channel, 5/2/03)
Nagging the "Naysayers"
"Now that the war in Iraq is all but over, should the people in Hollywood who opposed the president admit they were wrong?"
(Fox News Channel's Alan Colmes, 4/25/03)
"I doubt that the journalists at the New York Times and NPR or at ABC or at CNN are going to ever admit just how wrong their negative pronouncements were over the past four weeks."
(MSNBC's Joe Scarborough, 4/9/03)
"I'm waiting to hear the words 'I was wrong' from some of the world's most elite journalists, politicians and Hollywood types.... I just wonder, who's going to be the first elitist to show the character to say: 'Hey, America, guess what? I was wrong'? Maybe the White House will get an apology, first, from the New York Times' Maureen Dowd. Now, Ms. Dowd mocked the morality of this war....
"Do you all remember Scott Ritter, you know, the former chief U.N. weapons inspector who played chief stooge for Saddam Hussein? Well, Mr. Ritter actually told a French radio network that -- quote, 'The United States is going to leave Baghdad with its tail between its legs, defeated.' Sorry, Scott. I think you've been chasing the wrong tail, again.
"Maybe disgraced commentators and politicians alike, like Daschle, Jimmy Carter, Dennis Kucinich, and all those others, will step forward tonight and show the content of their character by simply admitting what we know already: that their wartime predictions were arrogant, they were misguided and they were dead wrong. Maybe, just maybe, these self-anointed critics will learn from their mistakes. But I doubt it. After all, we don't call them 'elitists' for nothing."
(MSNBC's Joe Scarborough, 4/10/03)
"Over the next couple of weeks when we find the chemical weapons this guy was amassing, the fact that this war was attacked by the left and so the right was so vindicated, I think, really means that the left is going to have to hang its head for three or four more years."
(Fox News Channel's Dick Morris, 4/9/03)
"This has been a tough war for commentators on the American left. To hope for defeat meant cheering for Saddam Hussein. To hope for victory meant cheering for President Bush. The toppling of Mr. Hussein, or at least a statue of him, has made their arguments even harder to defend. Liberal writers for ideologically driven magazines like The Nation and for less overtly political ones like The New Yorker did not predict a defeat, but the terrible consequences many warned of have not happened. Now liberal commentators must address the victory at hand and confront an ascendant conservative juggernaut that asserts United States might can set the world right."
(New York Times reporter David Carr, 4/16/03)
"Well, the hot story of the week is victory.... The Tommy Franks-Don Rumsfeld battle plan, war plan, worked brilliantly, a three-week war with mercifully few American deaths or Iraqi civilian deaths.... There is a lot of work yet to do, but all the naysayers have been humiliated so far.... The final word on this is, hooray."
(Fox News Channel's Morton Kondracke, 4/12/03)
"Shouldn't the [Canadian] prime minister and all of us who thought the war was hasty and dangerous and wrongheaded admit that we were wrong? I mean, with the pictures of those Iraqis dancing in the streets, hauling down statues of Saddam Hussein and gushing their thanks to the Americans, isn't it clear that President Bush and Britain's Tony Blair were right all along? If we believe it's a good thing that Hussein's regime has been dismantled, aren't we hypocritical not to acknowledge Bush's superior judgment?... Why can't those of us who thought the war was a bad idea (or, at any rate, a premature one) let it go now and just join in celebrating the victory wrought by our magnificent military forces?"
(Washington Post's William Raspberry, 4/14/03)
"Some journalists, in my judgment, just can't stand success, especially a few liberal columnists and newspapers and a few Arab reporters."
(CNN's Lou Dobbs, 4/14/03)
"Sean Penn is at it again. The Hollywood star takes out a full-page ad out in the New York Times bashing George Bush. Apparently he still hasn't figured out we won the war."
(MSNBC's Joe Scarborough, 5/30/03)
Cakewalk?
"This will be no war -- there will be a fairly brief and ruthless military intervention.... The president will give an order. [The attack] will be rapid, accurate and dazzling.... It will be greeted by the majority of the Iraqi people as an emancipation. And I say, bring it on."
(Christopher Hitchens, in a 1/28/03 debate-- cited in the Observer, 3/30/03)
"I will bet you the best dinner in the gaslight district of San Diego that military action will not last more than a week. Are you willing to take that wager?"
(Fox News Channel's Bill O'Reilly, 1/29/03)
"It won't take weeks. You know that, professor. Our military machine will crush Iraq in a matter of days and there's no question that it will."
(Fox News Channel's Bill O'Reilly, 2/10/03)
"There's no way. There's absolutely no way. They may bomb for a matter of weeks, try to soften them up as they did in Afghanistan. But once the United States and Britain unleash, it's maybe hours. They're going to fold like that."
(Fox News Channel's Bill O'Reilly, 2/10/03)
"He [Saddam Hussein] actually thought that he could stop us and win the debate worldwide. But he didn't--he didn't bargain on a two- or three week war. I actually thought it would be less than two weeks."
(NBC reporter Fred Francis, Chris Matthews Show, 4/13/03)
Weapons of Mass Destruction
NPR's Mara Liasson: Where there was a debate about whether or not Iraq had these weapons of mass destruction and whether we can find it...
Brit Hume: No, there wasn't. Nobody seriously argued that he didn't have them beforehand. Nobody.
(Fox News Channel, April 6, 2003)
"Speaking to the U.N. Security Council last week, Secretary of State Colin Powell made so strong a case that Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein is in material breach of U.N. resolutions that only the duped, the dumb and the desperate could ignore it."
(Cal Thomas, syndicated column, 2/12/03)
"Saddam could decide to take Baghdad with him. One Arab intelligence officer interviewed by Newsweek spoke of 'the green mushroom' over Baghdad--the modern-day caliph bidding a grotesque bio-chem farewell to the land of the living alongside thousands of his subjects as well as his enemies. Saddam wants to be remembered. He has the means and the demonic imagination. It is up to U.S. armed forces to stop him before he can achieve notoriety for all time."
(Newsweek, 3/17/03)
"Chris, more than anything else, real vindication for the administration. One, credible evidence of weapons of mass destruction. Two, you know what? There were a lot of terrorists here, really bad guys. I saw them."
(MSNBC reporter Bob Arnot, 4/9/03)
"Even in the flush of triumph, doubts will be raised. Where are the supplies of germs and poison gas and plans for nukes to justify pre-emption? (Freed scientists will lead us to caches no inspectors could find.) What about remaining danger from Baathist torturers and war criminals forming pockets of resistance and plotting vengeance? (Their death wish is our command.)"
(New York Times' William Safire, 4/10/03)
Jeff and friends -
Is there any hope left at all?
If all we can do is torture and murder each other. Sexually abuse young children, lie, connive and look the other way as innocents die all around us, destroy our planet as we head out to new planets.
Bird flu? We deserve it!
http://www.guerrillanews.com/headlines/8138/Fighting_for_Their_Lies
"It's not simply a topic, it's a lure cast by Nazi apologists for the newly open minded, which exploits the fresh sense of distrust of history by suggesting this, too, must be a lie.
"I want it to be off the table here not because I consider the issue settled, though I do, but because I don't want the forum to become a place where neo-Nazis can trawl for converts."
What an obvious crock. Resembling the situation with Xymphora. Brilliant analyst, great writer, world-class spotter of chinks in every kind of official story, who (the last time I read his/her blog)declared that s/he just couldn't see ANY reason at all to question the 9/11 fiction.
Your ULTRA-selective refusal to discuss just ONE SINGLE TOPIC (the so-called "holocaust") is a glaring anomaly in YOUR universe, Mr. Jeff. I wonder what kind of undisclosed agenda and hidden loyalties it may be connected to in your life.
Anonymous 3:47 PM - trollin now?
Negative comments flag the monster
To Anon 4:41;
Waaa, Waaa, WAAA! You can say we've been stunted from doing anything about this, you can say we 'nit-pick' over crap like 'holocost- real or not' bull-shit. But the fact remains, we're SCARED. We're ISOLATED. AND we're too sarcastic to do anything about it. Just as it takes insanity to lead us into war, it takes insanity to kick these BUMS out of our government. We're too busy to march. We're too jaded to pray. And we're too arrogant to have anyone lead US anywhere.
Jeff, I have had extensive testing done over the past 4 months of my mysterious illness and 3 seperate doctors say it cannot be catagorized and have no answers. 3000 dollars later, I have found that I have been infected with a form of mycoplasma that has destroyed my immune system in 5 areas and is exactly the same as Gulf War Illness suffered by thousands in Gulf War 1.
My testosorone levels are at 440, when normal for my age is 1500, my iron levels are extremely low, and I have a form of Epstein Barr. Not to mention my glucose levels are borderline diabetic and my red blood cells are causing me to have heart palpatations. All of these symptoms were non existent 6 months ago. I am thoroughly convinced this has been brought on by the chemtrail spraying that has been taking place in my area for the past 5 months commencing in late October. All my maladies commenced within 3-4 weeks after they 1st started spraying. Not only that, amongst a dozen friends, we all have the exact same symptoms. I believe the only reason we are not all getting sick right now is this is on a time table. The steady rise of fear as the "flu" spreads unnaturally rapidly across Europe. Articles this week abound about the impending US invasion. I believe the type of mycoplasma we all are carrying will be triggered by the release of some bio agent. Have you noticed that this "bird flu" jumps from one country in Europe to the next in a matter of hours? We are being fumigated and this is Agenda 21, make no mistake about it. we will be hit hard.
I just want to point out that this moron cannot spell inoculate or blanket. Further he doesn't know what inoculate actually means.
Kris Milligan doesn't disappoint by showing he doesn't know what inoculate means either. Milligan is the only publisher dumb enough to publish garbage like this.
His friend Daniel Hopsicker sent an email to his mailing list because he came across ONE guy who agreed with him, an American Marxist blogger with a total of zero comments on his blog.
I think Jeff might not be discussing the Holocaust here because there are laws against being a "Holocaust Naysayer" in Canada, no? He might have to be walking on a tightrope here with this topic.
Jeff???
I believe you are a Jew
Inconceivable though it may be, I'm a gentile who regards the Nazi genocide a historical fact.
you are a complete creep and an idiot who posts on his own forum under various names all with the same dismal sophistry
Naturally: if others agree, they must be me. Or perhaps just Jews?
a glaring anomaly in YOUR universe, Mr. Jeff
I don't see it so. The internal consistency is I'm anti-fascist. That I don't embrace the author of The Hitler We Loved and Why as a beleagured truthseeker should be self-evident.
this moron cannot spell inoculate or blanket
The quote "innoculate the Indians by means of blanketts" preserves Amherst's spelling.
re Canadian laws, it's true, there are. But I'm not acting from compulsion, but conviction.
So on the subject of locals being led thru things, being forced to bear witness to darkness,
it seems like a good time for a revisit to the tomb:
Skull and Bones was founded in 1832 by William Huntington Russell and Alphonso Taft, two students who were not admitted into Phi Beta Kappa and who furthermore disliked a Phi Beta Kappa decision that took that organization public in 1831. The first Skull and Bones class, or "cohort," was the very next year, 1832-33.
Skull and Bones is known by many names, including The Order of Death, The Order, The Eulogian Club, and Lodge 322. Initiates are most commonly known as Bonesmen, Knights of Eulogia, Boddle boys, and GBdBs (Great Bones (of the) Boodle).
The society sometimes inspires a fanatical loyalty. Members have been known to stab the Bones insignia into their flesh to keep it on them while bathing.
... Kris Millegan writes that one of the rooms is uncannily arranged like a room arranged for an entrance into a higher level of the Bavarian Illuminati. Bones members are reported to be forced to reveal their innermost secrets and their "sexual biography" to one another. It has been suggested that this may be used for blackmailing.
The Skull and Bones Weekly Meeting Requirement for Group Analysis and Critique:
In the tomb with each other over the span of the year, members dine off a set of Hitler's silverware according to "dissident" Bones members interviewed by Alexandra Robbins for her book Secrets of The Tomb, consuming expensive gourmet meals. Members are given new code names. The members call themselves "Knights," and simultaneously call everyone else in the world at large "barbarians". Another dissociation is that clocks in the Bones "tomb" run intentionally five minutes ahead of the rest of the world, to give the members an ongoing sense that the Bonesmen's space is a totally separate world--and a world just a bit ahead of the curve of the rest of the "barbarians" outside.
Partially, "tapping" is a response to visible or anticipated excellence, thus it could be considered meritocratic. However, since a great many members of the membership in this secret society are drawn over and over from the same families as the "core" of the group, it is a typical nested secret society with "porch brethren" on the outside making a power network for those in the inner administrative levels of the secret society.
The top repetitive families in Skull and Bones are known because in 1985 a disgruntled Skull and Bones member leaked rosters to a private researcher, Antony C. Sutton. This leaked 1985 data was kept privately for over 15 years, as Sutton feared that the xeroxed pages could somehow identify the member who leaked it. The information was finally reformatted as an appendix in the book Fleshing out Skull and Bones by editor, researcher, and writer Kris Millegan, who published it in 2003.
The data shows that certain families have been well represented, and that these happen to be related to each other as well—such as the Cheney family, Taft family, Whitney family, Walker family, and Adams family. Other subordinate members are often related to these families. Other core family names are common. However, not all initiates in these families are as interrelated as the above group. This second category of core families covers such names as Smith, Allen, Brown, Clark, White, Day, Johnson, Jones, Miller, Stewart, Thompson, Cheney, Taft, Williams.
For an example of the predilection of certain core families being embedded in Skull and Bones (or vice versa), here are the top 15 families in Skull and Bones with 10+ Members (over 1833-1985, with occasional later years available):
Smith (15)
Walker (15)
Allen (13)
Brown (13)
Clark (12)
White (12)
Day (11)
Johnson (11)
Jones (11)
Miller (11)
Stewart (11)
Thompson (11)
Cheney (10)
Taft (10)
Williams (10)
The Skull and Bones "Tomb":
Their house is located on Yale's campus at 64 High Street. The building itself was built in 1900. New Haven police, as mentioned in the Robbins book, say that the Bones tomb has an underground entrance connected to Yale University's steam tunnel system, allowing covert entrance or escape unobserved.
Nicknames of selected Bonesmen
William Howard Taft: Magog
F. O. Matthiessen: Little Devil
Averell Harriman: Thor
Henry Luce: Baal
Briton Hadden: Caliban
Archibald MacLeish: Gigadibs
McGeorge Bundy: Odin
Potter Stewart: Crappo
George W. Bush: Temporary
William F. Buckley: Cheevy
Anson Phelps Stokes: Achilles
Reuben Holden: McQuilp
Charles Seymour: Machiavelli
Donald Ogden Stewart: Hellbender
John Kerry: Long Devil
-Wikipedia
Where do people place Prof. Norman G. Finkelstein in this moral and ideological tight rope walk ? I don't know that much about him, but he appears to have become the unintentional (?) poster boy of this apparent "red-brown collision" (if it can be called that). Not to belabor the point, as this topic can obviously be grating on the nerves, but I am curious as to what people’s opinions are in this regard.
re spelling and meaning
Sorry, I took my cue from reading Kris Milligan's message. You have used a very different meaning of the word 'inoculate' from it's current one, actually you used both and it doesn't work.
The picture of what looks like a holocaust victim and quote from Leonard Cohen just seems completely inappropriate.
You do sound as creepy and illogocal as DE and QTB in your holocaust and related arguments, that's my contention.
Actually reading this blog is like listning to a medley of Liberace, Sex Pistols and Sabbath songs with a hip hop beat or much worse.
You're supposed to tie the whole thing together, not just spew the words on the floor and point.
Milligan thinks you're a genius, that says it all.
Illness indeed.
As I understand his position, Finkelstein's rep as a "denier" is undeserved. His parents were Holocaust survivors and his estimate of the number of victims is over five million. His argument is with subsequent misappropriation of the genocide.
The Holocaust didn't happen, huh?
That would be news to my father who had the misfortune of being among the first Americans into the camps.
For about 15 years I nagged him to tell me what it was like, having only seen assorted documentaries on the subject.
He refused to tell me anything. He just got the most disgusted look on his face as if the memories alone were too much to face.
About 6 months before he died he relented one tiny bit. He told me that everything in those films was consistent with what he saw.
He then said, "In all these years, I've never been able to understand how people could do that to other people."
At the time, I wished that I had an answer for him.
Now, I wish I had that answer for myself.
Anon 6:29 PM with mycoplasma (and everyone else as prep for flu and other such) do not pass go do not collect $200, go directly to Hulda Clarke/ Bob Beck zapper & magnetic pulser, and most importantly R. Rife and EM frequency therapy. Ozone, and/or food-grade hydrogen peroxide (do your research, use safely) may also help. Research whatever helped Tom Bearden get over his mycoplasma infection of so many years. Good luck.
And sorry I forgot to add of course colloidal silver--full spectrum antimicrobial, antifungal, antiviral, antibiotic. Again, use safely and wisely. Do your research. Try googling Mark Nine and Colloidal Silver. You can make it by the bathtub full if needed.
This Holocaust denial theme is so sickening. They are trying to destroy the value of the ideas Jeff is putting out. Stay with the truth and leave them to their dark world. We must being doing something right.
so often does it seem that the vitriolic morons post anonymously,
put your money where your mouth is anonymous,
publish your name and details,
holocaust denial is pointless and stupid,
quasi-scientific conversations about the exact numbers killed are pointlesss and stupid,
it was a crime so horrible that no words can describe it,
anyone that cannot see this obvious fact is either mentally retarded or so hate filled that they are a sad waste of space
"Anonymous said...
"It's not simply a topic, it's a lure cast by Nazi apologists for the newly open minded, which exploits the fresh sense of distrust of history by suggesting this, too, must be a lie.
"I want it to be off the table here not because I consider the issue settled, though I do, but because I don't want the forum to become a place where neo-Nazis can trawl for converts."
What an obvious crock."
Jeff,
As the author of this blog, you have the right to post what you wish, allow whatever discussion you wish relating to whatever topics you wish.
However, your comments relating to holocaust discussion insult your readers intelligence. Why can't "rigorous intuition" be applied to this topic?
As one of your readers noted, "In a blog that easily accommodates arguments that Bush Sr. is a pedophile, that the moon landing was a hoax, that Cheney is a pedophile and torturer, that certain powerful elements in the US government may have successfully invoked demons, that ritual cannibalism is practised by some survivors of ritual abuse, and that discusses "ritualized homosexual rape and systemic paedophilia in the highest ranks of the US military and government", may I ask what it is about this particular historic event that makes it off limits?"
Does one automatically qualify as a fascist, Neo-Nazi, or Nazi apologist simply by questioning the veracity of a historical event?
This blanket logic smacks of the same prejudice our favourite "necons" utilize to silence opponents.
And what could one ask are you "trolling for" by placing a picture taken from the holocaust at the head of this particular blog? Are you asking us to equate the intentional extermination of the Indians with the holocaust?
I bet the present day Palestinians can relate...
Very clever.
War is peace. Ignorance is strength. Restricted is 'OPEN'?
"Who controls the past,' ran the Party slogan, 'controls the future: who controls the present controls the past."
Could you please explain "subsequent misappropriation of the genocide"
PUBLIC LAW 95-79 [P.L. 95-79]
TITLE 50, CHAPTER 32, SECTION 1520
"CHEMICAL AND BIOLOGICAL WARFARE PROGRAM"
"The use of human subjects will be allowed for the testing of chemical and biological agents by the U.S. Department of Defense, accounting to Congressional committees with respect to the experiments and studies."
"The Secretary of Defense [may] conduct tests and experiments involving the use of chemical and biological [warfare] agents on civilian populations [within the United States]."
-SOURCE-
Public Law 95-79, Title VIII, Sec. 808, July 30, 1977, 91 Stat. 334. In U.S. Statutes-at-Large, Vol. 91, page 334, you will find Public Law 95-79. Public Law 97-375, title II, Sec. 203(a)(1), Dec. 21, 1982, 96 Stat. 1882. In U.S. Statutes-at-Large, Vol. 96, page 1882, you will find Public Law 97-375.
Your local library should have more...
PUBLIC LAW 95-79 [P.L. 95-79]
TITLE 50, CHAPTER 32, SECTION 1520
"CHEMICAL AND BIOLOGICAL WARFARE PROGRAM"
"The use of human subjects will be allowed for the testing of chemical and biological agents by the U.S. Department of Defense, accounting to Congressional committees with respect to the experiments and studies."
"The Secretary of Defense [may] conduct tests and experiments involving the use of chemical and biological [warfare] agents on civilian populations [within the United States]."
-SOURCE-
Public Law 95-79, Title VIII, Sec. 808, July 30, 1977, 91 Stat. 334. In U.S. Statutes-at-Large, Vol. 91, page 334, you will find Public Law 95-79. Public Law 97-375, title II, Sec. 203(a)(1), Dec. 21, 1982, 96 Stat. 1882. In U.S. Statutes-at-Large, Vol. 96, page 1882, you will find Public Law 97-375.
You must be doing something right, Jeff -- judging by the enemies who are spewing the venomous bile in the recent batch of posts here.
First off, to Anonymous who compared Robert Anton Wilson to Hubbard, and hardcore conspiracy doctrinaires -- HUH??? Wilson's whole schtick is "maybe logic" and "reality selection." He advocates an escape from the either/or of Aristotelian logic. The ILLUMINATUS! books and his subsequent "fiction" and "non-fiction" volumes poke fun at popular "conspiracy" theories and revel in their inconsistencies. Wilson encourages his readers to take nothing for granted, and to be wary of accepting anything -- especially his own opinions -- as the "final truth."
Wilson is the antidote for religious hucksters and paranoid demagogues who insist on interpreting all events through the narrow window of the "real" reality.
In all matters of human affairs, there are ultimately as many interpretations as there are interpreters. But beyond the Reality Selectors inside our skulls, there's still a real world to contend with -- a world where piles of dead bodies are cold facts. Reality Selection means keeping your mind open as to how they got there, and why -- not pretending they never existed in the first place.
To his great credit, Jeff's work here tends to move towards opening new avenues of interpretation. And to that end, yes, it really is his job is to "spew the words on the floor and point." Especially when some of those words may have shifting, multiple meanings; and when those words may have elusive connections that wouldn't become apparent without startling and shocking juxtapositions.
One of the reasons that this is consistently the most provocative and revelatory "conspiracy" / "deep politics" blog on the web is precisely because Jeff dares to look at the dark cracks in the sidewalk -- and he even dares to go look out into the vastness, out beyond where the sidewalk ends.
Speaking of 'inoculation,' I was reminded of comments by Grant Morrison regarding his bizarre graphic novel THE FILTH. The comic concerns a team of agents dedicating to stopping the ugliest, most distorted aspects of the imagination from manifesting into reality.
In many ways, the comic reminds me of a fictional, funhouse reflection of what you're doing here in Rigorous Intuition, Jeff... dosing us with the run-off from the darkest undercurrents in the zeitgeist in a desperate attempt to cure what ails us.
from http://www.crackcomicks.com/the_filth_questions.htm
Morrison: "The Filth can be seen a healing inoculation of grime. I'm deliberately injecting the worst aspects of life it into my readers heads in small, humorous doses of metaphor and symbol, in an effort to help them survive the torrents of nastiness, horror and dirt we're all exposed to every day - especially in white Western cultures, whose entertainment industries peddle a mind-numbing perverted concoction of fantasy violence and degrading sexuality while living large at the expense of the poor in other countries."
Dear Jeff,
Well put, we are indeed being acclimatised to atrocity, just as our immune systems achieve a grudging coexistence with viruses.
Surely single deaths are easier to comprehend and respond humanely to than Stalin's statistical milions.
So little seems to change. It feels as if the apparent idealism of the past was ever a smoke screen.
Bah! Humans!!
Regards Mince
I'm writing this while cringing, because it makes me very uncomfortable being quoted approvingly by individuals who are obviously racists and hate-mongers.
The issue of the Holocaust is obviously an emotional, rather than an intellectual, minefield.
Part of the responsibility for this lies with those who have promoted the idea of the Holocaust as a unique evil because of who the victims were, not because of the horror of the crime itself. I have heard a prominent rabbi claim, to enthusiastic applause, that because of what "the Jews" suffered in the Holocaust, the rest of the world has forfeited the right to criticize anything done by "the Jews" OR ISRAEL, ever.
This man is as much of a racist as those spewing their venom in the posts above. Unfortunately, there are only too many of these misguided, anguished souls, mirroring each others' hate.
As an Arab myself, my main problem with the taboos related to The Holocaust is how it has been used to justify any crime against Arab people, instead of serving as a warning to the world of the depths to which we humans can sink.
I believe that the victims of the Nazi genocide have been used cynically, chewed up yet again by the machinery of a fascist state, to fuel its progress as it swallows up other victims and advances in its quest for world domination.
How else to explain that two of the world's fascist, oppressive states, whose detention camps are filled with the stench of the blood and terror of innocents, including children, weep pious tears before the altar of The Holocaust?
All of this is to say that you were right, Jeff, and I was wrong. The issue of the Holocaust cannot be studied as a historical event, as one more genocidal frenzy such as have been committed by evil men left to impose their will in the face of a powerless, indifferent or complicit world.
The Holocaust is used with breathtaking hypocrisy to give a halo of sanctity to bloody crimes being committed today, and to the war criminals who commit them. But in trying to universalise its lessons, one is warmly welcomed into the revolting embrace of hate-maddened racists.
It's a paradox... So, like you, I prefer not to go there. Anyway, my question was an innocent one, and your response satisfied me.
Alice,
It's hard to know what to make of your response, since it's unclear which of the countless "anonymous" posts are yours.
But it seems like it's rather late in the game to be trying to shift the argument to the politics of representation. Yes, there have been other genocides, across the centuries. There are tragedies that have been overlooked -- that are happening right now, but are buried in the back pages of unread newspapers. Denying, dismissing, or downplaying the Holocaust does not honor the countless dead Armenians, or Africans, or Cambodians, or Native Americans.
The Holocaust will always have a particular stamp of horror on it -- not just because of its scale, not because of the identity of its victims, but because of its dispassionate mechanized bureaucracy: the application of the assembly line mentality to wholesale death. The most ancient hatreds allied with the zeitgeist of 20th Century automation. The stirrings of a primordial, occult id girded itself in steel plate and iron rails, and tallied its body counts with punch-card processing adding machines.
I don't know which anonymous is you; does this line belong to you?
"Does one automatically qualify as a fascist, Neo-Nazi, or Nazi apologist simply by questioning the veracity of a historical event?"
Because the answer is "yes."
It's one thing to posit theories regarding what might happen behind the closed doors of the White House; no one truly knows what goes on there except for the small handful of people actually present.
There's a difference between speculating about the WHY behind large-scale events, as opposed to whether they happened at all.
With 9/11, it's not a question of IF the Towers went down. It's a matter of how, and more importantly, WHY. Unless you want to suggest that most of the city of New York is conspiring to tell a big lie...
To fake or to greatly exaggerate the tragedy of the Holocaust would require the collusion of countless millions of co-conspirators -- the liberators from Allied armies, the media of the whole planet, and the families of the victims.
And that's a level of paranoia most cannot aspire to...
...unless you're willing to assume the collusion of The Jews, as a race, as a unit.
And if you can assume that -- well, that takes us back to one. You, or whoever wrote that, whoever is ready to swallow that one -- I'd guess they're inclined to believe that whopper because at heart they're probably a fascist or a neo-Nazi.
Or maybe they just have even more of a problem coping with "reality" than all of us tinfoil-hatted flakes out here on the fringes.
Enough of this subject, please. Forever.
Anon...it doesn't take "genius" to be evil. The conspiracies you talk about is a dog ear on the page.
"doctoradder said...
Enough of this subject, please. Forever."
I agree wholeheartedly....and I agree with Alice's previous comments...100%!
I am the anonymous one that posted the comment stating "Does one automatically qualify as a fascist, Neo-Nazi, or Nazi apologist simply by questioning the veracity of a historical event?",
...and the answer is unequivocally "NO".
Everyone knows you can't even discuss the problem in Palestine without being labeled as an anti-semite. This makes the situation there even more profoundly tragic.
I am neither an apologist, a revisionist, a racist nor a hatemonger, where this, or any other , topic is concerned. And I certainly do not hate jews.
A rigorous intuition, applied to this, or any other topic, is healthy.
However, selective discrimination where arguments pro. and con., relate to any healthy discussion (also called censorship) is not.
And by the way, how is "doctoradder"
any different from "anonymous"?
"People should get beat up,
for stating their beleifs, "
-They Might Be Giants
Anonymous poster of 10:14 AM said to Jeff "Thank you for mentioning the genocide perpetrated by the British on the original North Americans. The British, historically a predatory culture, are the supreme rip-off artists of the past milenia." A bit understated but I agree with the sentiment.
The empire-obsessed and genocidal racist British were also behind the deliberate wide dissemination of opium in the 18th and 19th centuries to a then peaceful China (as well as to several other nations being exploited by them like India, and basically anyone unfortunate enough to have contact with the British by definition soon sees exploitation, and eventually significant bloodshed. The British opium dealing finally led to the two tragic opium wars in China, from which that nation has not even now recovered from.
The British also tried to completely exterminate the Irish from Ireland in the 1840's, either by death by the manipulation of a famine, and/or by stealing their land or of then evictions and forcing their emigration, in the famous potatoe famine (thus shining a bit of light on the historical hatred of the Irish for the English). Such was the evil that in a country of about 4 million before the famine, less than half remained after 5 years.
They were also the authors of the massive deliberate bloodlettings when no war objective was served by it, by Churchill and others in WWI (Tipperary being one example), and of course Churchill had the full support of his government. No doubt I am leaving much off.
Of course it was British offspring in this country rich with opium blood-money loot from China by the British East India Tea Co's opium trade and through families such as the Russells who founded Yale and the Skull and Bones.
And these pure blue-blood-line relatives of theirs finished evicting then killing off most American Indians (and resettling the rest into small and undesired lands) and who to this day still traffic in opium and other narcotics to our children and those of other countries too. They have a monopoly on the illegal drug trade and well as the legal one, commonly known as the pharmaceutical industry.
The Brits also were the undisputed kings of the human slave trade and still are, and it is this impulse to so easily enslave anyone if given the opportunity, that is so repulsive.
Recall it was the English who centuries ago regularly raided Africa and indiscriminately kidnapped hundreds of shiploads of blacks into slavery for the American Colonies and who institutionalized slavery here, who sold blacks in open air markets, and whose offspring in our country, the Bonesmen and their cronies, still do the same in the Middle East to fill up places like Guantanamo and other fake prisons, that are more accurately the propaganda and mind control centers where assassins and death squads are made, to perpetuate needless wars and thus underwrite their war-based industries.
And the Brits (with the Bonesmen) aren't yet done in Africa, for they're doing to black Africans in the late 20th and 21st centuries what their anscestors did to the American Indians in the 18th century.
And they cling to their old bad habits like using small pox (even though small-pox was believed eradicated, they re-spread it in Africa in the early 70's, then in the late 70's they sponsored through the UN a free small-pox vaccination program with vaccines that included the Aids virus, according to evidence of Dr. Leonard Horowitz. I recommend his very detailed lectures on this, available for free download through bit torrents).
In addition, the Royal Family's (particularly Prince Phillip's) efforts to save the African environment (who said it was under any threat?) are nothing more than pretexts to justify the natives' evictions from their lands, their forced resettlement and herding into big refugee camps of genocide where they either are starved to death, or find their demise through vaccination with disease or other toxins, or attacked by British-trained death squads pretending to be guerrilla movements, and are regularly assaulted, raped, and traumatized especially if there happens to be a UN presence nearby.
The numbers being killed annually are not being publicized but are huge, and who knows maybe one of these days, our turn will come. The Katrina aftermath seemed like a dress rehearsal.
So Gouda's quote of Churchill above from 1937, hits the nail right on the head:
"I do not agree that the dog in a manger has the final right to the manger even though he may have lain there for a very long time. I do not admit that right. I do not admit for instance, that a great wrong has been done to the Red Indians of America or the black people of Australia. I do not admit that a wrong has been done to these people by the fact that a stronger race, a higher-grade race, a more worldly wise race to put it that way, has come in and taken their place."
That is quite a confession, but they don't sound to me like the words of one from a "higher-grade race," but of the contrary if anything.
Completely OT:
Jeff, Castro is running propaganda linking Bush and Luis Posada Carriles.
You can see pics here.
ok, it seems the hole with which they are trying to dig us into is with the nebulous idea that the holocaust never happened. or it did happen but it was only 100,000 people. all of which can't really be proven in a single comment post.
this topic is a good discussion for the forums or in the comments section for a post dedicated to that subject. BUT for any other place. all it does is DISTRACT us from what was really being talked about here: death and destruction of human life displayed in all corners, that can be easily seen and soon becomes a heavy psychologial weapon (innoculation used as a very active verb) as people must further entrench themselves into cognitive dissonance. so that when the tanks are coming rolling down the streets we won't think much of it. its to protect us from the terrorists, oh and what fantastically vague term that is.
Skull and Bones was founded in 1832 by William Huntington Russell and Alphonso Taft, two students who were not admitted into Phi Beta Kappa and who furthermore disliked a Phi Beta Kappa decision that took that organization public in 1831. The first Skull and Bones class, or "cohort," was the very next year, 1832-33.
Whomever posted that at Wikipaedia is incorrect. Both Russell and Taft were members of PBK. As were many Bones. This is typically disinfo to distance the truth of the matter of secrecy. PBK was a firerunner of Bones.
Peace,
More Comments later,
Peace,
Kris Millegan
Anonymous,
The difference is, there's only one "doctoradder" posting here (at least so far), so the arguments are all coming from one person, limiting the guesswork as to who said what.
And, come on, really. It's been several years since the mainstream in this country thought Israel had the unquestionable right of way through Palestine. There's generally a broader awareness of the complexities of the situation and of the history of the region. Many, many people have commented on the plight of the Palestinians without being labeled "anti-Semites." (It helps if you don't assume that the state of Israel automatically equates to "The Jews." Try it.)
And believe it or not, there really is a huge difference between presenting a difference of opinion as to why a murder happened, or who's responsible, and who might be profiting from the death -- than in saying the body was never really there in the first place.
Sometimes interesting the synchronicity of the posts and the "stuff" I've been digging into lately...I'm studying early Korean/American relations and of course that leads into the opium trade in China, Teddy Roosevelt and American racist policies...the work of Gustav Le Bon...earlier John Stuart Mill...that great champion of freedom...except where it came to his involvement with the drug trade on behalf of the British, etc. And Churchill...yes...dog's in the manger...and Churchill is of American Indian descent (Haudenosaunee) on his mother's side...argh...what a tangle.
I could just as easily take the name doctoradder as the other doctoradder did. See, using a name does not make you identifiable unless you are registered as a blogger on this site.
Like Rivero says, "Truth needs no laws to defend it". If the history text book version of the holocaust were true then laws against claiming otherwise wouldnt be necessary.
If someone wants to claim they chop their arms off every night and they grow back in the morning you dont pass laws making that claim illegal, call them names, extradite them and throw them in jail. You just ignore them.
People also use the false label of "denier" on these people instead of say revisionist. Noone is claiming 0 Jews died during WW2 and everyone is imagining it. They are questioning the number of dead and how they died, and that is a valid argument.
There is an ever growing body of evidence making a mockery of the claim that 6 million Jews were mass gassed with hydrogen cyanide and all the official history proponents have in their defence is verbal abuse and threats of jail.
Just one such example is that the so called "gas chamber" at the Auschwitz museum is an admitted fake built after the war as a "replica" of the alleged "real" one. There is plenty more if you can be bothered to look.
History is written by the victors, dont believe everything you read in a history book.