Suicide? Don't fall for it.
Here's a game we can play: what do the names Forrestal, Olson, Kokal and Weiss have in common?
James Forrestal, 1949: "jumped from building"
At around 2 a.m. on the morning of May 22, 1949, America’s first Secretary of Defense, James Vincent Forrestal, fell to his death from a small window of the 16th floor of the Bethesda Naval Hospital....
Throughout Forrestal’s hospitalization, access to him was severely restricted. One-time visitors were his wife, his two sons, Sidney Souers (a former DCI, NSC executive secretary, and alleged MJ-12 member), Louis Johnson, Truman, and Congressman Lyndon Johnson. Menninger visited twice. Although Forrestal was presumably glad to see his sons, he was not close to any of these visitors, and had a political antipathy to his government colleagues who came by. However, Forrestal was not permitted to see the several people he continually asked to see: his brother, a friend, and two priests....
Father Sheehy had reason to suspect murder. When he arrived at Bethesda Naval Hospital after learning of Forrestal’s death, an experienced-looking hospital corpsman approached him through the crowd. In a low, tense voice he said: "Father, you know Mr. Forrestal didn’t kill himself, don’t you?" Before Sheehy could respond or ask his name, others in the crowd pressed close, and the man quickly departed....
Later inspection found heavy scuff marks outside the window sill and cement work. Proponents of the suicide theory claim these were made by Forrestal’s feet while he was hanging by the neck from the radiator, and perhaps that he belatedly changed his mind and tried to climb back in. But the scuff marks confirm no such thing. They could just as easily have been made by his struggle with someone pushing him out the window.
Frank Olson, 1953: "jumped from building"
Frank Olson and Kurt Blome (who had become a protegé of the Americans) later met at Camp King in Germany in the early 1950s when Olson made several visits there to participate in "Operation Artichoke", in which the U.S. Army and the CIA experimented with the use of drugs (including LSD) in interrogation. Olson was present during brutal interrogations by the Americans of Soviet prisoners and suspected double agents, some of whom died under torture. Olson was deeply disturbed by what he had seen....
In November 1953 Olson attended a meeting of a group of CIA agents at a country retreat where they discussed their work. Olson was suspected by the CIA of being a security risk. He was given a drink laced with LSD and when well under the influence of the drug he was subjected to interrogation using Artichoke techniques, probably a very unpleasant experience.
A week later Olson was staying in Room 1018A at the Hotel Statler in New York City under the supervision of a CIA doctor, Richard Lashbrook. The manager of the hotel, Armond Pastore, heard a thump outside and went out to find Olson dying on the pavement, having fallen from the 13th floor. The manager later found that a phone call had been made from Room 1018A to a number in Long Island and the caller had said only, "Olson's gone."
The CIA maintained that Olson had leapt through the closed window to his death. However, an autopsy conducted forty years later on the exhumed corpse revealed an injury to the skull most likely caused by a blow to the head and no evidence of any cuts to the body from broken glass. It seems that Olson, exactly as recommended in a CIA assassination manual, was struck on the head (possibly while drugged) and thrown from the window to his death thirteen floors below.
John Kokal, 2003: "jumped from building"
WASHINGTON — A State Department (search) employee was found dead outside the agency headquarters in Washington, D.C., Friday around 5 p.m., Fox News has confirmed.
State Department sources told The Washington Post that John Kokal (search) worked in a unit that dealt with intelligence and research. Sources said he handled classified documents regularly....
....the man, a white male, was wearing a dress shirt, tie and slacks, but was not wearing shoes....
Mystery Surrounds Death of State Dept. Official
In a case eerily reminiscent of the death of British Ministry of Defense bio-weapons expert, Dr. David Kelly, an official of the State Department's Bureau of Intelligence and Research Near East and South Asian division (INR/NESA), John J. Kokal, 58, was found dead in the late afternoon of November 7. Police indicated he may have jumped from the roof of the State Department. Kokal's body was found at the bottom of a 20 foot window well, 8 floors below the roof of the State Department headquarters near the 23rd and D Street location. Kokal's death was briefly mentioned in a FOX News website story on November 8 but has been virtually overlooked by the major media....
Kokal's INR bureau was at the forefront of confronting claims that Iraq possessed weapons of mass destruction. Washington police have not ruled out homicide as the cause of his death. Kokal was not wearing either a jacket or shoes when his body was found. He lived in Arlington, Virginia....
It would have been impossible for Kokal to have gained entry to the roof on his own. INR occupies both a Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility (SCIF) on the sixth floor that has no windows and a windowless structure on the roof that has neither windows nor access to the roof, according to the former official. The other windows at the State Department have been engineered to be shatter proof from terrorist bomb attacks and cannot be opened.
INR and other State Department officials report that a "chill" has set in at the State Department following Kokal's defenestration. A number of employees are afraid to talk about the suspicious death. It also unusual that The Northern Virginia Journal, a local Arlington newspaper, has not published an obituary notice on Kokal.
Gus Weiss, 2003: "jumped from building"
Nashville native Gus Weiss, adviser to 4 presidents, dies
Gus Weiss, a Nashville native who advised four presidents, served on the National Security Council for 16 years and won numerous awards for his foreign policy and intelligence-gathering skills, has died. He was 72.
Mr. Weiss died Tuesday in Washington, D.C. The circumstances surrounding his death could not be confirmed last night.
Friends of Mr. Weiss expressed shock at his death....
"He was wired into the intelligence community, and there were a lot of mystical secrets we weren't privy to," said Harris Gilbert, a Nashville attorney who had been friends with Mr. Weiss since childhood. "He was very interested in diplomatic strategy and was very, very opposed to the Iraq war. It was the first military action he ever opposed, but he believed we shouldn't go to war in the Middle East without knowing what we were getting into."
Gus W. Weiss, 72; White House Adviser
Gus W. Weiss, 72, a former White House policy adviser on technology, intelligence and economic affairs, died Nov. 25 of a fall from the Watergate East residential building in the District. The DC medical examiner ruled his death a suicide.
A spokesman for the D.C. police said that officers found his body at a service entrance to the apartment cooperative. Dr. Weiss lived in the building....
Much of his government work centered on national security, intelligence organizations and concerns over technology transfers to communist countries. As an adviser to the Central Intelligence Agency, he served on the Pentagon's Defense Science Board and the Signals Intelligence Committee of the U.S. Intelligence Board.
During the Carter administration, Dr. Weiss was assistant for space policy to the secretary of defense.
Okay - stumped?
Here's a clue, from the CIA's declassified assassination manual:
Accidents:
For secret assassination, either simple or chase, the contrived accident is the most effective technique. When successfully executed, it causes little excitement and is only casually investigated.
The most efficient accident, in simple assassination, is a fall of 75 feet or more onto a hard surface. Elevator shafts, stair wells, unscreened windows and bridges will serve. Bridge falls into water are not reliable. In simple cases a private meeting with the subject may be arranged at a properly-cased location. The act may be executed by sudden, vigorous [excised] of the ankles, tipping the subject over the edge. If the assassin immediately sets up an outcry, playing the "horrified wit ness", no alibi or surreptitious withdrawal is necessary. In chase cases it will usually be necessary to stun or drug the subject before dropping him. Care is required to insure that no wound or condition not attributable to the fall is discernible after death.
There are many restless ghosts rattling John Ashcroft's cages in the Homeland formerly known as the United States of America. More Americans ought to learn some of their names, and discover the reasons why they were sent to early graves. A reconciliation with the dead marks the beginning of peace for a haunted nation.
But regretably, and not surprisingly, this is not a respectable endeavour, not even among the respectable Left. To admit that the state has been criminalized to such a murderous degree will get you labelled a conspiracy theorist, and before you know it, there goes your endowment from the Ford Foundation.
I'm reminded of David Corn's early and uninformed smear of the 9/11 truth movement. Corn wrote: "to execute the simultaneous destruction of the two towers, a piece of the Pentagon, and four airplanes... is far beyond the skill level of U.S. intelligence. It would require dozens (or scores or hundreds) of individuals to attempt such a scheme."
How respectably foolish is this: 9/11 was "far beyond the skill level of US intelligence," and yet it was not so far beyond the skill level of a cave dweller with bad kidneys and no state sponsorship.
Corn becomes so respectable here, it hurts:
I recall interviewing one former CIA official who helped manage a division that ran the sort of actions listed above, and I asked him whether the CIA had considered "permanently neutralizing" a former CIA man who had revealed operations and the identities of CIA officers. Kill an American citizen? he replied, as if I were crazy to ask. No, no, he added, we could never do that. Yes, in the spy-world some things were beyond the pale. And, he explained, it would be far too perilous, for getting caught in that type of nasty business could threaten your career.
So Corn takes the CIA at its word, body count and assassination manual to the contrary, that No, heaven forfend, we would never kill an American citizen, and thus is his case made against 9/11 complicity: Since the CIA would never kill an American citizen, how much less thousands?
Here's the question: Does the apparatus of the National Security State draw a line at the murder of Americans, regardless of benefit? Corn says yes. And you, Messrs Forrestal, Olson, Kokal and Weiss? Can we see a show of hands?
James Forrestal, 1949: "jumped from building"
At around 2 a.m. on the morning of May 22, 1949, America’s first Secretary of Defense, James Vincent Forrestal, fell to his death from a small window of the 16th floor of the Bethesda Naval Hospital....
Throughout Forrestal’s hospitalization, access to him was severely restricted. One-time visitors were his wife, his two sons, Sidney Souers (a former DCI, NSC executive secretary, and alleged MJ-12 member), Louis Johnson, Truman, and Congressman Lyndon Johnson. Menninger visited twice. Although Forrestal was presumably glad to see his sons, he was not close to any of these visitors, and had a political antipathy to his government colleagues who came by. However, Forrestal was not permitted to see the several people he continually asked to see: his brother, a friend, and two priests....
Father Sheehy had reason to suspect murder. When he arrived at Bethesda Naval Hospital after learning of Forrestal’s death, an experienced-looking hospital corpsman approached him through the crowd. In a low, tense voice he said: "Father, you know Mr. Forrestal didn’t kill himself, don’t you?" Before Sheehy could respond or ask his name, others in the crowd pressed close, and the man quickly departed....
Later inspection found heavy scuff marks outside the window sill and cement work. Proponents of the suicide theory claim these were made by Forrestal’s feet while he was hanging by the neck from the radiator, and perhaps that he belatedly changed his mind and tried to climb back in. But the scuff marks confirm no such thing. They could just as easily have been made by his struggle with someone pushing him out the window.
Frank Olson, 1953: "jumped from building"
Frank Olson and Kurt Blome (who had become a protegé of the Americans) later met at Camp King in Germany in the early 1950s when Olson made several visits there to participate in "Operation Artichoke", in which the U.S. Army and the CIA experimented with the use of drugs (including LSD) in interrogation. Olson was present during brutal interrogations by the Americans of Soviet prisoners and suspected double agents, some of whom died under torture. Olson was deeply disturbed by what he had seen....
In November 1953 Olson attended a meeting of a group of CIA agents at a country retreat where they discussed their work. Olson was suspected by the CIA of being a security risk. He was given a drink laced with LSD and when well under the influence of the drug he was subjected to interrogation using Artichoke techniques, probably a very unpleasant experience.
A week later Olson was staying in Room 1018A at the Hotel Statler in New York City under the supervision of a CIA doctor, Richard Lashbrook. The manager of the hotel, Armond Pastore, heard a thump outside and went out to find Olson dying on the pavement, having fallen from the 13th floor. The manager later found that a phone call had been made from Room 1018A to a number in Long Island and the caller had said only, "Olson's gone."
The CIA maintained that Olson had leapt through the closed window to his death. However, an autopsy conducted forty years later on the exhumed corpse revealed an injury to the skull most likely caused by a blow to the head and no evidence of any cuts to the body from broken glass. It seems that Olson, exactly as recommended in a CIA assassination manual, was struck on the head (possibly while drugged) and thrown from the window to his death thirteen floors below.
John Kokal, 2003: "jumped from building"
WASHINGTON — A State Department (search) employee was found dead outside the agency headquarters in Washington, D.C., Friday around 5 p.m., Fox News has confirmed.
State Department sources told The Washington Post that John Kokal (search) worked in a unit that dealt with intelligence and research. Sources said he handled classified documents regularly....
....the man, a white male, was wearing a dress shirt, tie and slacks, but was not wearing shoes....
Mystery Surrounds Death of State Dept. Official
In a case eerily reminiscent of the death of British Ministry of Defense bio-weapons expert, Dr. David Kelly, an official of the State Department's Bureau of Intelligence and Research Near East and South Asian division (INR/NESA), John J. Kokal, 58, was found dead in the late afternoon of November 7. Police indicated he may have jumped from the roof of the State Department. Kokal's body was found at the bottom of a 20 foot window well, 8 floors below the roof of the State Department headquarters near the 23rd and D Street location. Kokal's death was briefly mentioned in a FOX News website story on November 8 but has been virtually overlooked by the major media....
Kokal's INR bureau was at the forefront of confronting claims that Iraq possessed weapons of mass destruction. Washington police have not ruled out homicide as the cause of his death. Kokal was not wearing either a jacket or shoes when his body was found. He lived in Arlington, Virginia....
It would have been impossible for Kokal to have gained entry to the roof on his own. INR occupies both a Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility (SCIF) on the sixth floor that has no windows and a windowless structure on the roof that has neither windows nor access to the roof, according to the former official. The other windows at the State Department have been engineered to be shatter proof from terrorist bomb attacks and cannot be opened.
INR and other State Department officials report that a "chill" has set in at the State Department following Kokal's defenestration. A number of employees are afraid to talk about the suspicious death. It also unusual that The Northern Virginia Journal, a local Arlington newspaper, has not published an obituary notice on Kokal.
Gus Weiss, 2003: "jumped from building"
Nashville native Gus Weiss, adviser to 4 presidents, dies
Gus Weiss, a Nashville native who advised four presidents, served on the National Security Council for 16 years and won numerous awards for his foreign policy and intelligence-gathering skills, has died. He was 72.
Mr. Weiss died Tuesday in Washington, D.C. The circumstances surrounding his death could not be confirmed last night.
Friends of Mr. Weiss expressed shock at his death....
"He was wired into the intelligence community, and there were a lot of mystical secrets we weren't privy to," said Harris Gilbert, a Nashville attorney who had been friends with Mr. Weiss since childhood. "He was very interested in diplomatic strategy and was very, very opposed to the Iraq war. It was the first military action he ever opposed, but he believed we shouldn't go to war in the Middle East without knowing what we were getting into."
Gus W. Weiss, 72; White House Adviser
Gus W. Weiss, 72, a former White House policy adviser on technology, intelligence and economic affairs, died Nov. 25 of a fall from the Watergate East residential building in the District. The DC medical examiner ruled his death a suicide.
A spokesman for the D.C. police said that officers found his body at a service entrance to the apartment cooperative. Dr. Weiss lived in the building....
Much of his government work centered on national security, intelligence organizations and concerns over technology transfers to communist countries. As an adviser to the Central Intelligence Agency, he served on the Pentagon's Defense Science Board and the Signals Intelligence Committee of the U.S. Intelligence Board.
During the Carter administration, Dr. Weiss was assistant for space policy to the secretary of defense.
Okay - stumped?
Here's a clue, from the CIA's declassified assassination manual:
Accidents:
For secret assassination, either simple or chase, the contrived accident is the most effective technique. When successfully executed, it causes little excitement and is only casually investigated.
The most efficient accident, in simple assassination, is a fall of 75 feet or more onto a hard surface. Elevator shafts, stair wells, unscreened windows and bridges will serve. Bridge falls into water are not reliable. In simple cases a private meeting with the subject may be arranged at a properly-cased location. The act may be executed by sudden, vigorous [excised] of the ankles, tipping the subject over the edge. If the assassin immediately sets up an outcry, playing the "horrified wit ness", no alibi or surreptitious withdrawal is necessary. In chase cases it will usually be necessary to stun or drug the subject before dropping him. Care is required to insure that no wound or condition not attributable to the fall is discernible after death.
There are many restless ghosts rattling John Ashcroft's cages in the Homeland formerly known as the United States of America. More Americans ought to learn some of their names, and discover the reasons why they were sent to early graves. A reconciliation with the dead marks the beginning of peace for a haunted nation.
But regretably, and not surprisingly, this is not a respectable endeavour, not even among the respectable Left. To admit that the state has been criminalized to such a murderous degree will get you labelled a conspiracy theorist, and before you know it, there goes your endowment from the Ford Foundation.
I'm reminded of David Corn's early and uninformed smear of the 9/11 truth movement. Corn wrote: "to execute the simultaneous destruction of the two towers, a piece of the Pentagon, and four airplanes... is far beyond the skill level of U.S. intelligence. It would require dozens (or scores or hundreds) of individuals to attempt such a scheme."
How respectably foolish is this: 9/11 was "far beyond the skill level of US intelligence," and yet it was not so far beyond the skill level of a cave dweller with bad kidneys and no state sponsorship.
Corn becomes so respectable here, it hurts:
I recall interviewing one former CIA official who helped manage a division that ran the sort of actions listed above, and I asked him whether the CIA had considered "permanently neutralizing" a former CIA man who had revealed operations and the identities of CIA officers. Kill an American citizen? he replied, as if I were crazy to ask. No, no, he added, we could never do that. Yes, in the spy-world some things were beyond the pale. And, he explained, it would be far too perilous, for getting caught in that type of nasty business could threaten your career.
So Corn takes the CIA at its word, body count and assassination manual to the contrary, that No, heaven forfend, we would never kill an American citizen, and thus is his case made against 9/11 complicity: Since the CIA would never kill an American citizen, how much less thousands?
Here's the question: Does the apparatus of the National Security State draw a line at the murder of Americans, regardless of benefit? Corn says yes. And you, Messrs Forrestal, Olson, Kokal and Weiss? Can we see a show of hands?
posted by Jeff Wells at 2:53 p.m.
28 Comments:
Great commentary, Jeff. Im sure you saw that documentary on Olsen on LINKTV. What a bunch of hypocrites our govt has became.
Have you ever read 'Inside the Company' by Phillip Agee? Theres lots of references to this type of stuff in that book. Its about the CIA in South America in the 50's and 60's.
KUGW (Keep Up the Good Work)
Every little bit helps.
Barry
Good post. This is creepy stuff, but clearly you are onto something important.
I too was dismayed by David Corn's refutation of any government involvement in 9/11. I don't know whether he felt he had to in order to maintain whatever reputation he had as a journalist (I don't know what people think of him in Washington circles), or whether he had other motives. There has been a rumor for a while that The Nation had CIA connections, and perhaps Corn was bowing to his superiors, so to speak.
This is a fascinating game Jeff.
Yea I hear the bodies hitting the pavement!
Would you consider Duggan a member of Club Jump?
New evidence emerging from the five-year grand jury investigation into the 1953 death of CIA biochemist Frank Olson reveals concerns about several additional puzzling deaths. At least one of those deaths is noted in the CIA's record of its own internal investigation into Olson's fatal plunge from a Manhattan hotel window. That death, detailed in a top-secret CIA report dated December 3, 1953, was Laurence Duggan's.
A former high-ranking State Department employee, Duggan fell screaming from a 16th-floor window of his Manhattan office on Dec. 20, 1948. Duggan's lifeless body was found moments later on a Fifth Avenue parapet. He was dressed in a business suit, overcoat, scarf and only one overshoe. Police found the missing overshoe on the floor of his office.
As with the Olson case, New York City police deemed Duggan's death an "accident or suicide," and the Manhattan Medical Examiner's Office ruled that he had "jumped or fallen." Friends and family of Duggan disputed these findings and claimed that he had been a victim of "foul play."
Ten days before his death, the FBI questioned Duggan about communist espionage in the State Department. From 1935 to 1944, Duggan served as U.S. State Department chief of the Division of American Republics where he oversaw diplomatic relations with Central and South America.
According to FBI documents, Duggan admitted during questioning that he had had contacts with Soviet intelligence agents but denied being a spy and failed to explain why he didn't report the contacts. When pressed for further details Duggan walked out of the interview.
more
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=24305
Wow! Sure does give one something to think about.
Hey, nice compilation!
I have one to add.
Cliff Baxter, the Enron VP who was found with a bullet in his head late one night as the Enron bankruptcy was just beginning to unfold, was just one of FOUR sudden deaths with links to the energy industry at that time. One was a man who police said landed 15 stories down off a building in Midtown in New York City.
This was an energy reporter. From 1993 to 1999 he was the NYT's business correspondent in Dallas, traveling throughout the Southwest and writing about the oil and energy business, corporate takeovers and transportation. Did some articles on Enron. He had written about Enron's contract on wind turbines in the NYT in 1997.
"Allen R Myerson, assistant business and financial editor of The New York Times and former national correspondent for paper, dies at age 47; police say Myerson fell from parapet above 15th floor of newpaper's Midtown building, landing on roof of adjacent parking garage; preliminary finding is suicide (Aug 23, 2002 NYT obit)."
Sources in the New York Police Department said he left a note behind, but the Times said that could not be confirmed. (Why would the police know but the Times -- with umpteen reports ON THE SCENE, not know?)
Myerson died on a Thursday, August 22, 2002.
Okay, so he writes about the wind turbine deal in 1997 when it happens.
Then, in 2002 court papers come out with very complex details of partnerships showing a pattern of Enron insiders collecting fake management fees and kickbacks while buying and selling Enron assets. The scams also were set up to dodge California rules about ownership of assets.
"A wind energy operation formerly owned by Enron Corp. was bought and sold by a sham partnership that netted ex-Enron executives millions of dollars, court documents allege. Details of the partnership came to light with the guilty plea of former Enron executive Michael Kopper this week." Thursday August 22, 2002, 07:40:10 PM, The Bakersfield Californian,
http://www.bakersfield.com/business/story/1642666p-1759599c.html
Details came to light "this week." Story date: Thursday, August 22, 2002.
Tragic death of Mr. Myerson: August 22, 2002.
Was he despairing because the energy deal didn't work out? What?
Jeff, if you want to add a summary of this to your blog, feel free. If you want all the citations, send me a note at DU.
Zan in Texas
Myerson may actually have been a suicide case. Either that or the reporting in this long article is a complete fabrication, including interviews with his family and friends. The author is experienced and appears to have a competitive career as a scandal reporter:
http://newyorkmetro.com/nymetro/news/features/n_8793/
It is heartening to see that Wayne Madsen, a former naval officer/NSA employee who has turned freelance journalist, has not forgotten about Mr. Kokal. In this recent article he speculates about his death and provides some new clues (possibly tying the death to John Bolton) and intriguing information that needs further investigation.
http://www.onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/042105Madsen/042105madsen.html
Note also what he reports about convicted felon Elliot Abrams.
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Let us not forget the RTC investigator Jon Parnell Walker who was all over Clinton before his 'arkancide'. Added to Clinton/Dan Lassiter lawyer Gandy Baugh.
David Kelly, though not a contrived accident, was made to look like a suicide. At least unless someone took more than a cursory look at it. Embarrassed Blair in exposing his lying on the WMD issue.
Robin Cook, supposedly "collapsed" and fell down a mountainside, or "collapsed" near or on a bridge as I think originally reported, though some reports said an "accident". Outspoken critic of Blair, resigning from being head of the House of Commons in protest of illegal Iraq invasion.
Mo Mowlam, outspoken critic of Blair, suddenly has her tumour reactivate as quickly as if someone had thrown a switch on a microwave radiation emitting device like the CIA (and British intelligence certainly too) have been using for years and years to give someone "fast-onset cancer".
They are probably only brazen enough to get rid of two such outspoken critics simultaneously because they figure "no-one knows about the microwave assassination device" and would think it's just her cancer returning.
Apparantly being critical of Tony Blair and his policies can be hazardous to one's health...
Look up the CIA's Project Pandora, an idea originally explored by the Soviets when they gave the U.S. ambassador to the U.S.S.R. leukemia in a few weeks in the early 1960s.
See this site: http://www.geocities.com/adrian9999999999/pandora.htm
or this one:
http://members.aol.com/alanyu5/notes.htm
The CIA then looked into creating their own microwave radiation devices and apparantly perfected it in the late 1960s or 1970s. Certainly we British have an equivalent contraption. The CIA almost certainly used it to kill Mae Brussell the most famous conspiracy researcher. It is the perfect assassination weapon.
The first address should read:
http://www.geocities.com/adrian9999999999/pandora.htm
what about hunter s. thompson? he was allegedly involved with the filming of a child snuff film at bohemian grove and was working on a book about 9/11 at the time of his death. maybe he knew too much? maybe he finally felt guilty about bohemian grove?
Excerpted from Gator Press.com -
"The insurance industry uses scientific tables to accurately predict death rates. Based on the 1997 CSO Mortality Tables, the odds that all of these men could collectively die during a 30 month period is a staggering 14,000,000,000:1
This makes it logically impossible for any reasonable person to deny that the world's leading microbiology researchers are being murdered, beginning with the anthrax attacks thru last month.
The question is why are they being killed, and by whom?"
http://gatorpress.com/badsam/page7.html
Edward Grant Stockdale is probably someone who was suicided by the CIA.
Stockdale was born in Greenville, Washington County, Mississippi, in 1915. Stockdale obtained a business administration degree from the University of Miami and then worked as a salesman for a venetian blind company. Later he became a sales manager with the company.
Stockdale became involved in the real estate business and eventually became President of the Miami Junior Chamber of Commerce.
After the bombing of Pearl Harbor Grant Stockdale enlisted in the United States Marine Corps. He served in the Pacific War Zone and took part in the fighting in the Marshall Islands and Okinawa. He was discharged as a First Lieutenant and remained with the rank of Major in the U.S. Marine Corps Reserves.
A member of the Democratic Party, Stockdale helped his friend, George Smathers, get elected to Congress in 1946. Three years later Smathers introduced Stockdale to John F. Kennedy, then a young Congressman from Massachusetts. Stockdale became increasingly interested in politics and was a member of the Florida State House of Representatives (1948-49). He was also a member of the Dade County Commission (1952 to 1956).
In 1959 Grant Stockdale was named director of the Florida State committee to elect John F. Kennedy. After Kennedy won the nomination, Stockdale actively campaigned for him in West Virginia, Oregon, and New York. He was also a member of the Democratic Party's National Finance Committee.
Grant Stockdale also formed a business partnership with George Smathers. Their company, Automatic Vending, was involved in providing vending machines to government institutions.
In March, 1961, President Kennedy appointed Stockdale as Ambassador to Ireland. Later that year Automatic Vending was sued for improper actions in getting a contract at Aerodex.
Stockdale resigned as ambassador in July, 1962. He returned to Miami where he became consultant to another vending machine company which had contracts at Cape Canaveral.
According to William Torbitt (Nonmenclature of an Assassination Cabal), Stockdale was involved with Bobby Baker, Fred Black and mobsters Ed Levenson and Benny Sigelbaum in a company called Serve-U-Corporation. Established in 1962, the company provided vending machines for companies working on federally granted programs. The machines were manufactured by a company secretly owned by Sam Giancana and other mobsters based in Chicago.
Rumours began circulating that Bobby Baker and Fred Black were involved in corrupt activities. Baker was investigated by Attorney General Robert Kennedy. He discovered Baker had links to Clint Murchison and several Mafia bosses. Evidence also emerged that Lyndon B. Johnson was also involved in political corruption. This included the award of a $7 billion contract for a fighter plane, the TFX, to General Dynamics, a company based in Texas.
On 7th October, 1963, Bobby Baker was forced to leave his job. Soon afterwards, Fred Korth, the Navy Secretary, was also forced to resign because of the TFX contract.
According to Seymour Hersh (The Dark Side of Camelot), at the beginning of November, 1963, President John F. Kennedy asked Stockdale to raise $50,000 for his personal use. Stockdale told friends that the money had something to do with Bobby Baker.
On 22nd November, 1963, a friend of Baker's, Don B. Reynolds told B. Everett Jordan and his Senate Rules Committee that Lyndon B. Johnson had demanded that he provided kickbacks in return for this business. This included a $585 Magnavox stereo. Reynolds also had to pay for $1,200 worth of advertising on KTBC, Johnson's television station in Austin. Reynolds had paperwork for this transaction including a delivery note that indicated the stereo had been sent to the home of Johnson.
Don B. Reynolds also told of seeing a suitcase full of money which Baker described as a "$100,000 payoff to Johnson for his role in securing the Fort Worth TFX contract". His testimony came to an end when news arrived that President John F. Kennedy had been assassinated.
On 26th November, Grant Stockdale flew to Washington and talked with Robert Kennedy and Edward Kennedy. On his return Stockdale told several of his friends that "the world was closing in." On 1st December, he spoke to his attorney, William Frates who later recalled: "He started talking. It didn't make much sense. He said something about 'those guys' trying to get him. Then about the assassination."
Edward Grant Stockdale died on 2nd December, 1963 when he fell (or was pushed) from his office on the thirteenth story of the Dupont Building in Miami. Stockdale did not leave a suicide note but his friend, George Smathers, claimed that he had become depressed as a result of the death of John F. Kennedy.
I suspect Grant Stockdale told Robert and Edward Kennedy what he knew about the assassination on 26th November. Stockdale was obviously shocked when he discovered that the Kennedy brothers showed little interest in the story. In fact, Edward goes as far to undermine his credibility by questioning his mental state.
Why should the Kennedy brothers do this? Why, did they not want the case investigated? My own view is that Robert Kennedy was himself implicated in the killing of JFK.
After gaining power JFK was told details of the CIA’s plot to kill Castro. Instead of bringing it to an end he attempted to bring it under his own control. The plan to assassinate Fidel Castro now became known as Operation Freedom and was to be run by his brother Robert Kennedy. Of course he had to rely on people like William Harvey to organize the killing of Castro but he insisted on being kept fully informed about what was taking place.
I believe someone involved in Operation Freedom decided to change their target from Fidel Castro to John Kennedy. By 1963 anti-Castro figures knew they would not be able to overthrow the socialist government of Cuba by assassinating Castro. The best way forward was by having a president who was willing to launch an invasion of Cuba. Kennedy would not do that (in fact he was at that time involved in negotiating a peace deal with Castro).
This is where the clever bit comes in. The CIA tell Robert Kennedy that they have selected an agent to kill Castro. His name is Lee Harvey Oswald. He is told that efforts were being made to get Oswald into Cuba to carry out the killing.
John Kennedy is then assassinated. Lee Harvey Oswald is quickly announced as being the killer (the original plan was for Oswald to be killed but this fails and Jack Ruby is brought in to do the job).
Now consider the reaction of Robert Kennedy to the news that the man he had arranged to kill Castro had killed his brother. Any full investigation into Oswald and the Kennedy assassination would reveal details of Operation Freedom. What the CIA had cleverly done was to implicate Robert Kennedy in the killing of his brother. He could now be guaranteed to join in the cover-up.
On 26th November, Stockdale tells Robert and Edward that he knows what has happened. It is only a matter of time before Stockdale goes public. But is it in the interests of the Kennedy family to let the world know what has happened? This involves the world discovering that John and Robert Kennedy were involved in a plot to kill Fidel Castro. Might the reaction have been: “he got what he deserves”. The image of JFK as a honourable political figure would have been destroyed by this information. Robert Kennedy’s political career would also have been over. It would not have needed LBJ to tell the Kennedy brothers why it was important that they joined the cover-up. However, for it to work, Stockdale would have to be stopped from telling the truth.
After posting this information on my website I was contacted by Grant Stockdale's daughter. Rgis is what she said:
"One thing I do know is that Kennedy asked Daddy to go to the Air Force Base South of Miami to see if (against Kennedy's orders) bombs were being loaded on the planes. Bombs were being loaded on the planes!! I believe one of the reasons Daddy was killed was because he knew that the Government was being run by the Military Complex. The Military Complex didn't want the American People to realize (and still don't ) that they were calling the shots. Daddy knew he was being followed... & he told Mom that they were going to get him... and they did. There was an attempt on my life also several days after Daddy's funeral . I realize now that this was a scare tactic to silence my Mother... i.e. if you speak about anything, Your kids are dead. It worked!!"
http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKstockdale.htm
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