Springtime for Atta

You think they're so dumb, you think they're so funny
Wait until they've got you running to the Night Rally - Elvis Costello
A recurring and seemingly fabulist theme in the literature of cult and mind control survivors is the perseverence of a criminal Nazi underground in America, surviving on bonds of blood and symbology and enjoying the protection of high power. Eight-year old Rhonda, drawing pictures of her torture depicting swastikas and ceremonial daggers. Kathleen Sullivan writing in Unshackled of being shuffled between porn shoots and "secret Nazi meetings" by her father and grandfather. It's all a bit too rich for most palates, even now, when the Nazi is little more than a stock villain or comic foil. It's hard to get exercised about an enemy if you believe him buried beneath 60 years of history.
We know of Paperclip and the Ghelen Org, and how Nazis came to guide US government science and intelligence (and unacknowledged yet no less real, the covert trafficking of arms and drugs), finding the patronage of their stateside fellow travellers and eugenicists. Not as well known is how many others came to follow.
Between 1948 and 1952, America's Displaced Persons Commission arranged for nearly a half-million Europeans to emigrate to the United States. For two years it barred those who had been members of organizations sympathetic or collaborative to the Nazis. In 1950 that began to change, when first the "Baltic Legion" was removed from the list of "hostile" movements, though the Baltic Legion was also known as the Baltic Waffen SS.
The change of policy was strategic: the CIA was subsidizing the immigration of European Nazis and fascists in order to build a far-right power bloc as a hedge against communism. Its primary vehicle became the Republican Party. In the year the Commission completed its work, the Republican National Committee formed an "Ethnic Division" to mobilize for elections, which became the permanent standing body called the Republican Heritage Groups Council in 1969.
In his 1988 book Old Nazis, the New Right, and the Republican Party, Russ Bellant writes that "it eventually became clear that it wasn't an accident or a fluke that people with Nazi associations were in the Republican Heritage Groups Council. In some cases more mainstream ethnic organizations were passed over in favor of smaller but more extremists groups. [And] the Republican National Committee knows with whom they are dealing."
The leaders of the Republican "heritage" groups included men like Nicholas Nazarenko, who fought as an officer in an SS Cossack unit before going to work for the US Army's Counter Intelligence Corp. The evening after a Reagan speech praising the heritage groups, Nazarenko insisted on opening for Bellant his huge suitcase of political materials, filled with German war memorabilia and literature on the "Jewish problem." He said he was still "in touch" with various "Nazi" organizations: "They respect me because I was a former German army officer. Sometimes when I meet these guys, they say 'Heil Hitler.'"
Bellant again: "in a sense...the foundation of the Republican Heritage Groups Council lay in Hitler's networks into East Europe before World War II. In each of those Eastern European countries, the German SS set up or funded political action organizations that helped form SS militias during the war."
The heritage groups accounted for 86,000 volunteers in the 1988 election of George HW Bush, though several of their leaders were compelled to resign from campaign positions on account of collaboration. One was Romanian priest and member of the pro-Nazi Iron Guard Florian Galdau, who boasted of having files on 15,000 Romanians he helped emigrate in the US with the aid of CIA-linked resettlement groups the Tolstoy Foundation and the International Rescue Committee. Candidate Bush insisted they were all honourable men and innocent of all charges.
These old ratlines are of more than historical curiosity, and for more reason than that they suggest an embedding of Nazism in the Republican Party that goes beyond metaphor. They ratlines also appear to continue to function. Mohammed Atta participated in a German-American exchange program, jointly overseen by the State Department and the German Ministry of Economic Cooperation and Development and linked to both David Rockefeller and Henry Kissinger. (The Carl Duisberg Society, named after a senior official of IG Farben.) According to Atta's stripper girlfriend Amanda Keller, he called his German associates in Florida his "brothers." One of then, Wolfgang Bohringer, belonged to the "Flying Club of Munich," which was owned by his father. "Such clubs were popular with "postwar German neo-Nazis to circumvent that country’s anti-Nazi laws."
Daniel Hopsicker further observes:
From what has been learned so far, the backgrounds of Atta's German associates seem strikingly similar to that of another German national, Andreas Strassmeir, whose possible relationship with Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh was in the news a decade ago. Strassmeir was at one point named in a lawsuit by families of the victims as a "US federal informant with material knowledge of the Oklahoma City bombing." Strassmeir's father was once a top aide to German Chancellor Helmut Kohl; Atta's German friends are all children of the German elite.
"Sometimes when I meet these guys, they say 'Heil Hitler.'" Sixty years - what's that?
89 Comments:
"Sixty years - what's that?"
That's about 2 generation's worth of psycho-political socialization, entrenchment, and planning. That's at least one patriarch's portrait in oil above the fireplace. (As you've written before, something like: 'grandfathered into respectability').
Remember the massive chain of detainment facilities that are being constructed across the United States by FEMA and Halliburton? The ones that are due to be completed by 2012 or so? Anyone else smell just the faintest whiff of a Final Solution on the breeze?
Fascism--relax, you're soaking in it.
Anonymous One,what kind of a mind virus do you think these evil fucks could brew up in those sixty years? The book The Men Behind Hitler,is a good look at some of the shit we brought over here after the war. The CIA ran their first MK ULTRA at I.G.Farben,what ever they have put together for our little brains,you can bet will catch us blind side.Most of the folks I talk with these days, are so detached for the"Now",some might not be able to tell if it isn't a dream that their in.Take a good look at the raver who shot up the party full of zombies last week,didn't he write the word NOW on the front steps of the houses,on his way back to the party,later.
As Mussolini said 'why don't they just call it corporatism'.
I think its uniquely suited to the (elite) American Dream. The 'feudal corporate state' Devo spoke of so long ago.
How much it'll take down with it is the question.
..."Remember the massive chain of detainment facilities that are being constructed across the United States by FEMA and Halliburton?
You mean like these? : FEMA Camp footage - Google Video
Jeff wrote: "A recurring and seemingly fabulist theme in the literature of cult and mind control survivors is the perseverence of a criminal Nazi underground in America, surviving on bonds of blood and symbology and enjoying the protection of high power. Eight-year old Rhonda, drawing pictures of her torture depicting swastikas and ceremonial daggers."
Nazis and Satanists go together like Bush and fascism. Where you find one you will invariably find the other, because their agendas and goals are the same. Control through fear and indoctrination, victim degradation, symbolism and fetish totems, pagan ritual and sacrifice for power, and world domination in the service of Lucifer.
The sad truth is that the US gov't has openly stated that they transplanted much of the Nazi intelligentsia over to American soil following the war in order to fight the Soviet communists. This was always taken as a good thing, at least in the books I read as a kid. Oppenheimer, Von Braun, and others whose names I forget. Essentially every accomplishment in the 1950s and 1960s having to do with space exploration or atomic weaponry came due to the work of Nazis working for the US government. But, I suppose everyoen here already knows that much.
Take a look at this interesting discussion at Progressive Independent and the comments etc there (my comments fit both places)
http://www.progressiveindependent.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=21560&mesg_id=21560
Just another note:
Wen you are aware that the Bushes Walkers Harrimans Dulleses Morgans and Rcokefellers (inter alia) FINANCED Hitler and the death camps at Auschwitz and elsewhere, all of this begins to fall into place.
Not to mention that three of the 7 member board of directors of Brown Brothers Harriman (who handled the Nazi financing and where Prescott Bush was a Director) whose assets were actually identified as Nazi assets in 1942 -after the war began - 3 of the 7 were Skull and Bones members, another was also a Yalie and the other three were Nazis.I'm just sayin'.
Our intel guys and sopooks know this stuff and we need to as well.
second try with PI link
http://www.progressiveindependent.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=21560&mesg
sorry, try looking at the general discussion if this link doesn't work.
Seems like you've been listening to some Dave Emory lately. I once had a three hour argument with a friend about Werner Von Braun never having renounced Nazism (which I heard on another radio show, I don't know if this is actually true or not), his point was "so what if he never renounced Nazism, that doesn't make him a Nazi" my point was "yes it does". If it looks like a duck and quacks like a Bush, it's probably a Nazi.
If readers are interested in these ties, they should check out Dave Emory. His shows are downloadable:
Recent shows at: http://www.spitfirelist.com/RA/
Older shows at: http://archive.wfmu.org:5555/archive/DX/
A listener posts summaries of the shows at
http://ftrsummary.blogspot.com/
Of course, we're all speculators, so it's hard to agree with his point of view entirely. But he is certainly informative, been quite predictive. The theorty of a Nazi Fifth Column takedown of the United States of America really fills in a number of the missing puzzle pieces. At least it helps to answer the question: why are George Bush's policies designed to destroy the Land of the Free and (at least once upon a time) Home of the Brave?
This is of RI interest...
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0331061nasa1.html
The secret societies and deep corporate/banking interests at the heart of Nazism (and why don't we talk about Japan as well?) are also connected closely into Zionism, via Rothschild banking, and to me always seem to be at the heart of the American and British plan for the world. Paperclip was all about bringing our own back into the fold--Nazism and the Third Reich was just one of several attempts by the deep financial powers--who are by their nature occultist and fascist--to go for broke, too early. Eugenics, after all, was birthed in America. The master race IS the American. But this time, much has been learned from the Hitler experience--for example to wait until you have all the fuel supplies you need for your war machine to complete its task. Why doesn't it seem to occur to anyone that our wars for oil are wars for the fuel to keep our military going, and are necessarily the first steps in complete global domination. This time, the gamble is not whether we can get a lock on all the fossil fuel supplies, but whether at the same time we can--or at least the master race can--develop a superior form of energy (at the same time that gene science is in the process of creating true 'superbeings'). Obviously it's not 'we', and nor does Dick Cheney care about gassing up your SUV.
I am the one, Orgasmatron, the outstretched grasping hand
My image is of agony, my servants rape the land
Obsequious and arrogant, clandestine and vain
Two thousand years of misery, of torture in my name
Hypocrisy made paramount, paranoia the law
My name is called religion, sadistic, sacred whore.
I twist the truth, I rule the world, my crown is called deceit
I am the emperor of lies, you grovel at my feet
I rob you and I slaughter you, your downfall is my gain
And still you play the sycophant and revel in you pain
And all my promises are lies, all my love is hate
I am the politician, and I decide your fate
I march before a martyred world, an army for the fight
I speak of great heroic days, of victory and might
I hold a banner drenched in blood, I urge you to be brave
I lead you to your destiny, I lead you to your grave
Your bones will build my palaces, your eyes will stud my crown
For I am Mars, the god of war, and I will cut you down.
I am the one, Orgasmatron, the outstretched grasping hand
My image is of agony, my servants rape the land
Obsequious and arrogant, clandestine and vain
Two thousand years of misery, of torture in my name
Hypocrisy made paramount, paranoia the law
My name is called religion, sadistic, sacred whore.
I twist the truth, I rule the world, my crown is called deceit
I am the emperor of lies, you grovel at my feet
I rob you and I slaughter you, your downfall is my gain
And still you play the sycophant and revel in you pain
And all my promises are lies, all my love is hate
I am the politician, and I decide your fate
I march before a martyred world, an army for the fight
I speak of great heroic days, of victory and might
I hold a banner drenched in blood, I urge you to be brave
I lead you to your destiny, I lead you to your grave
Your bones will build my palaces, your eyes will stud my crown
For I am Mars, the god of war, and I will cut you down.
great post, Jeff.
another interesting theme to follow up on would be the extent to which these types tend to indulge in anti-semitic and anti-freemasonic conspiracy theories.
Looking outside for thought and knowledge
There's a windwheel on a small tower and a circular bale of hay on a hill in the field at the farm next door. Old oaks imposed on my windows page, that keep me from seeing more. Rolling land, high and low, like a bright luscious green carpet conformed, and shadows of this day's setting sun playfully painted in deeper green (vocabulary) accents, talking (a changing language) slowly til bed time to themselves and to me, and I to you
words seeking freedom
I have a friend who was a fraternity buddy of the late bestselling thriller writer Robert Ludlum at Wesleyan University in the early 1950s, where there was a lot of recruiting for the CIA and other secret services.
One of Ludlum's threads, particularly in his earlier books, is the point you have just made -- the Nazis didn't vanish, they continued on in America and worldwide, they just call it "corporatism." Weird.
sofla said:
I figured as much, because it seemed too easy to take the Israelis as the better explanation to the received wisdom of those Islamofascists who were the first storyline to the 9/11 and anthrax attacks. Crimes of such enormity would surely have SEVERAL fallback positions, meaning the actual actors were unlikely to be the very next in line for suspicion, as the Israelis surely ARE, in this matter.
Hence, some time ago, I semi-deduced it could be fascists, using their favored scapegoats.
Jeff, this is a wonderful, wonderful post. it has much to say...i will have to think on all of this.
but i will say this now. i agree with what you have described. what they do is let the extremists do the work for them, let them infiltrate and when the time is nigh, overwhelm the system. but the 'they' are probably 100 times more extreme.
Here's one of those things that makes me nuts:
In an anthology called "Secret and Suppressed: Banned Ideas & Hidden History" edited by Jim Keith, the final piece is a long essay of dubious origins, titled "Exposing the Nazi International" and said to date from 1981.
What makes me nuts about this essay is that it's simultaneously *totally* unbelievable in its picture of a well-organized ongoing Nazi underground singlehandedly manipulating world events and yet in places bizarrely plausible, given everything that has come out over the last 25 years about the events it references.
It's struck me as possible that the real purpose of the essay was to point out a consistent fascist strain in several right-wing conspiracies of the 70's -- significantly including the election of Ronald Reagan -- but that the Nazi trappings were largely invented and were meant to serve as a mixture of track-covering and colorful window dressing.
Certainly the people it points to, like Kissinger and Haig, were almost certainly tangled up with fascist groups like P2. The only question is whether there was a deliberate Nazi presence behind all the local fascist and extreme right-wing groups.
The essay doesn't seem to be available online, but I may try to summarize it later when I have a little free time.
Google S.S. General Kammler and Nazi Anti-Gravity and you have the Holy Grail that unites these Knights of the Long Knives. Or as PKD said, The Empire Never Ended.
Nazism is a mindset, and one which, unfortunately, many Americans seem to have embraced. Of related interest is today's LRC article on the horrific synergies that exist between cinematic celebration of barbarism and gore, and the sadism occurring in Iraq.
http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig7/friedrich2.html
er...rather are one and the same..
Yeah...and the killer of six ravers in Seattle was from where?
WHITEfish, Mt.
This killing is so bizarre, none of it makes any sense.
The Big Lie of the late 20th century was that Nazism was Rightist. It was in fact typical of the Leftism of its day. It was only to the Right of Stalin's Communism. The very word "Nazi" is a German abbreviation for "National Socialist" (Nationalsozialistisch)
source: http://dissectleft.blogspot.com/
I saved an obituary from the 7-13-1998 edition of the Charlotte Observer:
Deaths of Note-
Three members of Wernher von Braun's German rocket team that helped put Americans on the moon, died during the last week in Alabama. They were Max Nowak,89, of Huntsville; Heinrich Paetz,88, of Grant; and Albert Schuller,83, of Huntsville. The deaths, from natural causes, were unrelated.
Starroute said -
"The essay doesn't seem to be available online, but I may try to summarize it later when I have a little free time."
Please do! :-)
At the same time this was going on, Bonesman and CIA agent Bill Buckley was demolishing the isolationist, decentralist, and libertarian Old Right, replacing it with a "conservatism" that was little more than corporatism and militarism.
Any coordinated and organized movement to overthrow the Nazi bastards is going to be infiltrated and hijacked by these same Nazi bastards. They're the pigs in the animal farm.
Deus Ex Machina said: Relax, people. We all know there is no such thing as the devil, Satan, or any other E.T. trying to influence world events. Sheesh! What were we thinking? Humanism is the Final Solution. Think about it, and you'll see I'm correct in my assumption.
"We don't take No Shit from a machine!" (Walter Koenig's unremembered co-star in "Moon Trap")
"sfmike said...
One of Ludlum's threads, particularly in his earlier books, is the point you have just made -- the Nazis didn't vanish, they continued on in America and worldwide, they just call it "corporatism." Weird."
Not really.
It is simply an extension of the corporate fascism that Mussolini advocated... and ironically quite different from the political ideology that the NAZI's espoused.
We shouldn't loose sight of this as it is very important to fully understand the basis of our current plight.
And tragically, we are all willing participants in the perpetuation of this monster via the allocation of debt through stock markets, credit derivatives, and the myriad other such instruments of servitude.
There is no end in sight. Greed and fear are our invisible masters.
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." -- Benito Mussolini
Here's that summary of "Exposing the Nazi International" from Secret and Suppressed: Banned Ideas & Hidden History:
According to the introduction, the article purports to be a transcript of four conversations taped in 1981 between an investigative reporter and a man claiming to be a Nazi operative. The reporter found it too hot to handle and passed it along to a publisher, who spoke to the original informant, was able to verify one of his visits to Otto Skorzeny, but otherwise made no judgment about how much of it was true and how much of it fabricated out of whole cloth.
The subject of the interview describes himself as having been a liaison for the International Nazi Party for ten years, connecting the central headquarters with its field operatives. He says that the core of the organization consisted of former SS officers and Nazi Party members and that there was a second section of German industrialists and businessmen who provided financial support. He says they were involved with such groups as the IRA and the PLO, but also with "top level individuals in the Reagan administration" and with the Western German government.
He says his involvement began when his interest in war memorabilia led to an introduction to Otto Skorzeny. Over a period of a couple of years Skorzeny asked him to do a few minor tasks, gradually building confidence in him. He says he then got involved in a number of financial operations. One eventually involved sabotaging DC-10 airplanes by means of ultrasonic equipment in order to benefit Airbus. Another had to do with taking over corporations through various individuals or organizations as fronts. He refers to Dean Witter/Reynolds as being actually controlled by Arabs, who were in turn controlled by Germans, and says that the Germans and British had been vying for influence over leading Arabs for decades, with the Americans pretty oblivious to the whole thing. There was also speculation in gold. His own payoff came through the insider knowledge he gained of these transactions.
About 1975, he says, Skorzeny faked his own death, surfacing again at a compound in Paraguay in 1977. When they met in Paraguay, they discussed using Hawaii as a base, because the governor at the time was on the take, as well as other corporations they might take over.
He says this about the Reagan administration:
They decided in '79 that Reagan was going to be elected. A meeting was held, those attending being Alexander Haig, George Bush, Steve Bechtel, Dave Packard, Henry Kissinger and Helmut Schmidt at Bohemian Grove, in which policy was decided for future election of Ronald Reagan and possible events to follow thereafter. This was merely a preliminary meeting to decide basic goals and to structure the campaign as these American corporate officers would desire to have it structured.
Mr. Bechtel at that time was not in total agreement with certain objectives. To keep him in line a very minor object lesson was made by an attack on Bechtel's holdings in Central America. At that time General Haig wished to have more input, particularly regarding his possible nomination, but acquiesced when told that was not possible at this time. When he continued to balk at his position he was given an objectlesson, the attempted bombing of his staff car, which was never meant to explode. . . .
Shortly thereafter, it was in the final planning stages of the election campaign, it was determined that Reagan was pliable, and could be worked with and dealt with, that there would be no problem. As time grew closer Mr. Reagan was evidently asserting himself in such a way that it was felt that he could not be depended on to follow advice of his subordinates who, in effect, were to be the heads of government. It was determined that he was to be removed. The first operation planned was for January 11, 1981 at a dinner held as a farewell to close friends in the Los Angeles area. Information was pased through my sources and the operation was stopped. . . . My contact was able to prebvent this particular contract from being carried out, this is not to say that the contract will not be tried again, as happened in Washington recently.
He then gives other examples of "Organization influence." One involved faking the origin of Iranian oil on behalf of the large oil companies. Another had to do with the Hunt brothers' attempt to corner the silver market in 1979-80 (together with the ben Mafouz family and Ghaith Pharaon of later BCCI notoriety.) He says, "[The Hunts] thought they were screwing the Arabs. It was Arab money that did the buying. So when the bath came, it was the Arabs took the bath. The Hunts got a nice profit for themselves, the Organization got a fantastic profit for themselves, and the Arabs were left sucking eggs. Who took the rap? The Hunts."
When asked about the Rockefellers, he says that Nelson "was one of the bitterest enemies of the Organization," who "worked long and hard" to root them out of South America, but that David was working with the Organization and was responsible for Nelson's death. He adds cryptically, "[Nelson] was probably connected to the Organization, but what's important is that he was one of the few men in a position to hurt the Organization and insulate himself from retaliation. And Kissinger was his advisor, and Kissinger reported to David."
And he says this of the 1979 plan to elect Reagan (in effect, backdating the October Surprise by a year):
You must remember that the Shah, the one who died, his father was very pro-Nazi. The German industrial element has very carefully, for many years, cultivated the Middle East countries. . . . So we're getting back to Iran, and how Iran could help Reagan. . . . Information was fed from the Organization to Helmut Schmidt to David Rockefeller to Henry Kissinger. Creating friction leading to an incident and feeding the incident. Very simply, the incident was created by bringing the Shah to the United States. The people in Iran looked at it very simply. Their reaction was predictable.
He also speaks of airplane hijackings involving Carlos the Jackal and the PLO. And he says that the massacre at the 1972 Munich Olympics was an Organization operation. His final statement is that the younger generation in the Organization is more ruthless and less concerned with keeping a low profile than the original-era Nazis.
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What do I make of all this? As I said in the brief post above, the idea of a Nazi underground pulling the strings of these kinds of events behind the scenes seems ludicrous on the face of it -- but the piece itself has no obvious loopholes and in fact seems more convincing today, in light of everything that has come out about the Bush family and BCCI and so forth, than when I first read it. If it was actually written in 1981, it is extraordinary for its focus on exactly the topics that preoccupy us in 2006, rather than on the Soviet Union or other concerns of its own time. Even if it was concocted in 1993, which is the publication date of the book in which I have it, it was unusually forward-looking.
Also, the people it names are exactly those you might suspect of having Nazi, or at least fascist,connections. For example, Barbara Honegger's October Surprise is quoted in various places online as saying, "When the Italian police raided (P2 Lodge founder) Gelli's home in March 1981, it was Michael Ledeen who, at the instigation of Alexander Haig and Henry Kissinger, offered to buy the list of 953 P2 members in an apparent attempt to keep it from becoming public. Henry Kissinger had also reportedly sent Ledeen to Italy to try to squash an investigation into his and Haig's involvement in the founding of P2."
And there is an Alex Constantine piece on Adnan Kashoggi, Barrick Gold, and related matters, which concludes:
Another Nazi entrusted with the postwar wealth of the SS was Francois Genoud. In 1992, the Observer identified Genoud as "one of the world's leading Nazis." Authorites suggest that he "transferred the defeated Nazis' gold into Swiss bank accounts." Genoud underwrote the postwar Odessa organization. On March 12, 2002, the San Franciso Chronicle let on that Swiss police "believe Genoud founded al Taqwa Bank and allocated its resources to support international terrorists such as Vladimir Ilich Ramirez, alias Carlos the Jackal, and bin Laden." A few days later, Salon reported that Osama bin Laden had received funding from Al Taqwa, with shareholders that include prominent Arab figures from numerous countries in the Middle East. Among the shareholders are the grand mufti of the United Arab Emirates and prominent families in the UAE and Kuwait. Two sisters of Osama bin Laden are also on the list, undermining the bin Laden family's claim that it separated itself from his terrorist pursuits after he was expelled from Saudi Arabia in 1994."
With all this subterfuge in the background, the Khashoggi-Lockheed bribery scandal begs reappraisal. Marcos, Yoshia and Iran-contra's John Singlaub were all charter members of the World Anti-Communist League (WACL), a para-fascist organization of old guard Nazis, death squad leaders, spooks and propagandists. WACL provides further right-wing context; the CIA and WACL were arguably symbiotic.
David Guyatt reports that a letter from Henry Kissinger dated February 21, 1986 was sent to Marcos, ordering the sale of 63,321 tons of gold to 2000 US and European banks. Marcos stubbornly refused and was dethroned.
So there's no doubt at all in my mind that much of what the article points to is real -- that there were a lot of fascists of various stripes active in the politics of the late 70's and early 80's, and that the 1980 election was a pre-planned coup in which Kissinger, Haig, and George H.W. Bush were centrally involved.
But whether there were really a bunch of old Nazis pulling *their* strings or whether that's merely a colorful rhetorical device, I have no idea.
I also have no opinion on whether David Rockefeller really murdered Nelson.
" "When the Italian police raided (P2 Lodge founder) Gelli's home in March 1981, it was Michael Ledeen who, at the instigation of Alexander Haig and Henry Kissinger, offered to buy the list of 953 P2 members in an apparent attempt to keep it from becoming public. Henry Kissinger had also reportedly sent Ledeen to Italy to try to squash an investigation into his and Haig's involvement in the founding of P2."
I think that Barbara Honegger has her facts confused.
The list of Propaganda Due ( or Two ) members that Michael Ledeen allegedly tried to buy wasn't the list confiscated in Licio Gelli's villa in Arrezo in 1981. According to Penny Lernoux in her book In Banks We Trust, it was the list of 20-odd members of the P2 in Uruguay that Ledeen attempted to purchase. Lernoux wrote that Uruguay apparently had more P2 members than its larger neighbor, Argentina. The P2 Lodge's international reach has never been adequately mapped.
It's also noteworthy that Uruguay has long been a financial and media headquarters for the Reverend Sun Myung Moon and his globe-spanning enterprises, as well as the country hosting many of the properties and accounts of Licio Gelli's extensive fortune. And Uruguay is well-known as a money laundering haven for organized crime, due to its lax banking laws.
As for the list of P2 members found by the Italian carabineri in their 1981 raid on Gelli's villa, it's long been publically available, and can presently be found on-line.
While Hitler was in prison, he began writing "Mein Kampf",
which means "my struggle." In it and in his speeches, Hitler
made it clear what he would do if he ever acquired the power to
do it. In a similar vein, we can read "The American Rich"
published in 1930 by Rockefeller advisor Hoffman Nickerson; "The
New Federalism" by Nelson Rockefeller; "The Emerging
Constitution" published in 1974 by Rexford Tugwell quietly
revealing a dictatorial new Constitution, which was written to
match a secret outline provided by Nelson Rockefeller himself; or
the Bicentennial Declaration advertisements published nation-wide
in 1975 by John D. Rockefeller III's National Committee for the
Bicentennial Era. The last item could have been titled: A
Bicentennial Manifesto, since a manifesto is nothing more than a
public declaration of intentions, motives, or views; but everyone
now knows that the Communist Manifesto of a century ago was no
joke, so that word was avoided.
But keep in mind what Hitler said in January 1941, quote:
"It is nonsense for the rest of the world to pretend today that
I did not reveal this program until 1933, or 1935, or 1937.
Instead of listening to foolish chatter, these gentlemen would
have been wiser to read what I have written and re-written
thousands of times. No human being has declared or recorded what
he wanted more often than I."
If the four Rockefeller Brothers are allowed to succeed in their
diabolical plans, they, too, will be in a position to indict us
in practically the same words.
Hitler directed much of his appeal to the new generation.
Young people had grown up in an abnormal time, lacking normal
roots and values, and who were therefore more vulnerable to being
misled and used. Introduction of the 18-year old vote,
regardless of its actual effect, was intended for a similar
purpose here in America. Hitler pursued a 'policy of legality'
strictly as a tactic in his campaign to take control of the
German government. In every respect Hitler was challenging the
authority of the State under the Weimar Constitution, yet he
camouflaged this challenge by using fair-sounding words.
The same thing is happening once again here today. The words
we hear in the presidential campaign--for example, such as: "A
new world framework for peace", "governmental reorganization",
"interdependence." But the meaning of these words involve World
government, surrender of United States sovereignty, and
suspension or replacement of the United States CONSTITUTION!
"But why", you may ask, "do they bother to leave any clues at all
like this if they're trying to be devious? Why don't they just
lie outright?" The answer is simply that it is harder to lie
convincingly than to tell the truth; and if one starts telling
actual lies, it becomes harder and harder over a period of time
to keep track of what has been said before, and eventually one
makes mistakes which can be detected. So instead they tell a
little bit of truth but always in such a way that you won't
understand it unless you are very alert.
Hitler realized that his 'policy of legality' could only lead
to success in one way; that was to gain access to the position of
Chancellor and use the emergency powers of the president under
the Weimar Constitution. This was true because try as he might,
Hitler was never able to achieve majority popular support for
himself or his Nazi Party. And today, our would-be Dictator,
Nelson Rockefeller, who has also been frustrated in his attempts
to gain majority popular support nationally, is also trying to
position himself to seize control by means of emergency
presidential powers. David Rockefeller's agent Jimmy Carter
meanwhile, whose build-up has been used to impress Ford with
Rockefeller power, also stands ready in case Nelson's illness
should overcome him.
In 1936 Hitler said, quote:
"It is not enough to overthrow the old State, but that the new
State must previously have been built up and be practically ready
to one's hand. In 1933 it was no longer a question of
overthrowing a state by an act of violence; meanwhile the new
state had been built up, and all that there remained to do was to
destroy the last remnants of the old state--and that took but a
few hours."
So it is that the Rockefeller Brothers are rapidly getting the
governmental machinery into place which is to go into full
operation under their dictatorial new Constitution for the,
quote: "NEW" STATES OF AMERICA."
Shortly before Hitler became Chancellor in 1933, he said to
then Chancellor Bruning, quote: "Herr Chancellor, if the German
nation once empowers the National Socialist movement to introduce
a constitution other than that which we have today, then you
cannot stop it." On September 12, 1975, Nelson Rockefeller
displayed exactly the same thinking, during a news conference in
Dallas, Texas, in response to criticisms leveled at him as our
appointed Vice-President by a columnist; Rockefeller's answer
was, quote: "Well, he's got one, so there's nothing he can do
about it." On August 9, 1974, our last elected president,
Richard Nixon, became the first in American history to resign,
hounded out of office by means of the Watergate scandal.
Listen now to the following words taken from a conspirator's
diary, and I quote:
"For him alone, winter seems to have arrived. He is being
secretly undermined and is already completely isolated. He is
anxiously looking for collaborators. Our mice are busily at work
gnawing through the last supports of his position."
Those words could have been written about Watergate with complete
accuracy, but they were not. They were written by Hitler's
propaganda chief, Paul Joseph Goebbels, 12 days before Chancellor
Bruning was forced to resign on May 30, 1932. Bruning was
succeeded by an interim chancellor more to Hitler's liking, Franz
von Papen; and Hitler himself replaced von Papen on January 30,
1933, when Hitler was appointed Chancellor by aging President von
Hindenburg under the provisions of the Weimar Constitution. It
was this weakness in the Weimar Constitution--the fact that the
Chancellor was appointed, not elected, that enabled Hitler to
succeed in his plan to take control of Germany by 'legal' means
despite his lack of majority popular support!
This lesson was not lost on Nelson Rockefeller, who introduced
exactly the same weakness into the United States Constitution for
his own benefit by means of the 25th Amendment! The 25th
Amendment was proposed a scant three weeks after the
assassination of President John F. Kennedy by Nelson
Rockefeller's water boy, Birch Bayh, almost as if it had been
ready and waiting!
Immediately after becoming Chancellor, Hitler forced new
elections. His election campaign promised nothing at all, but
instead simply ran down the failures of the past. Hitler said
simply, "Give us four years." Meanwhile he assured his
supporters that these would actually be the last elections to be
expected for 10, perhaps even a hundred years.
Terrorism and lawlessness mushroomed during the campaign,
culminating in the Reichstag fire just a few days before the
elections. This pretext was used to suspend individual liberties
as guaranteed by the Weimar Constitution, enabling the Nazis to
take any actions they pleased against their political opponents.
Following the election and the suppression of all effective
opposition, Hitler forced the passage of the infamous enabling
law, the foundation of Hitler's dictatorship. This gave the
Chancellor the right to make laws without the cooperation of the
Reichstag for a period of four years. Now, after it was too
late, it became clear what Hitler had meant in his campaign
theme, "Just give us four years."
Hitler's enabling law gave him the power to rule by fiat,
which is the power of dictatorship. To enact a law as Dictator
without the concurrence of the Reichstag, the Chancellor had only
to write a law and publish it, and in exactly the same way the
President of the United States can, and does, make law without
any action by Congress in the form of "EXECUTIVE ORDERS." These
'laws' signed by the President himself, become law simply by
being published in the "FEDERAL REGISTER."
Since March 1933, we have been technically in a continuous
condition of 'National Emergency', and many governmental powers
have been usurped by American presidents under this condition
over the past 43 years. But every time a major new phase is
entered, there is a fresh declaration of National Emergency.
In monthly AUDIO LETTER No. 10 four months ago, I alerted you
to the fact that plans are now progressing rapidly toward
implementing Executive Order 11490 signed by President Nixon
nearly seven years ago to provide in detail for a total
government take-over of all activities in a 'declared Emergency'.
And on June 11, 1976, just last month, President Ford signed a
new Executive Order 11921 very quietly, which updates the older
Executive Order and shifts the emphasis heavily in the direction
of post-attack conditions as we near the outbreak of war! It
places heavy emphasis on procedures relating to nuclear,
biological, and chemical hazards of the sort introduced into our
environment by the planned war. It provides for the
establishment, not the preservation, of an economy for the
nation. It provides for sweeping controls on that all important
resource, WATER, which is to be controlled and allocated by the
federal government. This is the outcome of the little noticed
"National Commission on Water Quality" which was started by
Nelson Rockefeller at the same time as his better known
"Commission on Critical Choices."
My friends, write to your Congressman and demand that he send
you a copy of the FEDERAL REGISTER for June 15, 1976, and read
for yourself the 44 pages of detailed provisions for the
"National Emergency" which is planned for all of us. If
possible, this will be brought into play in the wake of oil
shortages and other disruptions generated in the wake of a Mid
East war! But the thrust of Executive Order 11921 just signed by
Ford has to do with the aftermath of nuclear attack.
The pattern, my friends, is unmistakable. After Hitler
achieved power, he progressively consolidated it by eliminating
opposition political parties, ending independent local government
and replacing it with agents of his federal government, enforcing
his will by means of a Secret Police and spies, disposing of
troublesome elements by means of Concentration Camps, and using
Germany as a springboard for war to conquer other nations as
well.
If the Rockefeller Brothers succeed in their plans, the United
States of America will soon witness a replay of Hitlerism,
brought up to date and made more repressive and horrible than
ever by those who used Hitler for their own purposes.
Topic #3--If NUCLEAR WAR ONE is permitted to take place as
planned on American soil, perhaps you will survive it. Many will
not, but some will; but if you do survive, what sort of future do
you and your trusting children have to look forward to?
My friends, whether or not the Rockefellers are double-crossed
by their Soviet allies, the aftermath of NUCLEAR WAR ONE promises
to be slavery for you and all your loved ones. If the
Rockefeller Brothers somehow find a way to prevent a double-cross
by the Soviets, then the war will proceed as planned for the
benefit of the Rockefellers. Half of America's population will
be consumed in nuclear blasts a thousand times hotter than the
ovens of Hitler. Those who are left will be given the task of
rebuilding America along the patterns dictated by the Rockefeller
Brothers--a once free people reduced to slave labor, shipped like
cattle to one area to rebuild a bombed-out power dam, to another
area to work in uranium mines, to still another area to work the
agricultural lands owned by the huge agri-businesses owned by the
Rockefellers and their collaborators.
If the Rockefellers are double-crossed, the death toll during
the war itself may be even higher but the results afterward will
be no different. Instead of living under a Rockefeller
dictatorship, we will exist under Soviet occupation whose
characteristics will be practically the same. And so, my
friends, the choice between the Rockefeller Brothers and their
Soviet allies is no choice at all.
If these things are allowed to come to pass and the final link
in the chain reaction that is to begin with general war in the
Middle East, then the life that will be left to us and our little
ones will not be worth living. That is why for my part I would
rather speak the truth now in the hope that we may yet turn to a
third choice, the saving of our free country from war and
dictatorship while it can still be done. The lesson of history
is that this cannot be done; that like countless peoples before
us, we will refuse to see the truth, believe it, and act on it in
time to save ourselves. That is how most Germans reacted to
Adolf Hitler in the early 1930's, and that is how most Americans
are still behaving today.
But 200 years ago a small band of very wise men defied the
rules of history and created a government that freed men as no
government had done in 5000 years, the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
And you and I can redeem this priceless heritage. We, too, can
and must defy history in the same way by saving the unique
heritage that is ours.
Until next month, God willing, this is Dr. Beter. Thank you,
and may God bless each and every one of you.
Written by Dr. Peter Beter, in the 1980s
From a 1,204 page document that can be found here
http://www.transactual.com/cac/Beter.pdf#search='dr%20peter%20beter'
We sometimes tend overlook that there are more Americans of German extraction than from any other source, including the British Isles.
There are any number of reasons why the US was reluctant to choose up sides in WWII, not the least of which was an influential group from within the US government and it's corporate elites who not only believed that Nazi Germany was the right side to be on, they were already investing heavily and reaping substantial profits from pursuing that very goal.
Pearl Harbour quietly drove those individuals underground for the duration but many were already strategically placed to use their influence not just to protect those investments but far more importantly preserve the real goal that they served.
The list of American companies and corporations that openly assisted Nazi Germany before the US entered the war and many even covertly during it, is now a matter of public record. IBM, Ford, General Motors, Du Pont, Union Carbide, Westinghouse, General Electric, Gillette, Goodrich, Singer, Eastman Kodak, and Coca-Cola, to name the most prominent.
So too are any number of familiar German corporations, particularly in the chemical and pharmaceutical industries, that not only survived unscathed despite their determined efforts in the Nazi cause, they actually secured an even greater power and world dominance as a result.
But those companies and corporations are merely the most visible surface of all the private greeds and lust for even greater wealth and power that lay behind them. Those individuals are never at a loss for venues to pursue those ambitions or finding and manipulating others to help them along the way.
They can grow, flourish, and even be naievely respected and rewarded for those same selfish efforts in almost every formalized structure and hierarchy humans have ever devised and there are none that haven't been corrupted, abused, or discredited by the same kind of individuals at one time or another as a result.
Politics is merely one of the more obvious avenues individuals with those particular ambitions happen to use as well as participate in. What needs to be remembered is that they do not and will not hesitate to use "any and all means" to secure their private ends. No reach is too high, no means too low or base to get there. Winning is all that really matters in their terms and that winning can in fact take on many unseen or unrecognised forms before it finally oversteps it's bounds.
The private world of capitalism and corporate empire building have never known any particular loyalty or morality beyond what was forced upon it from without. That too is a matter of record as was all the needless human exploitation, suffering and strife that necessitated it.
That has never stopped the same kind of individuals within it from trying to avoid or circumvent even the most reasonable limits and laws at every possible turn.
These days such individuals have not only found themselves richly rewarded by the growing success of those efforts but firmly in control as well.
This has been more than amply borne out in the rise of the multinationals that have seemingly slipped beyond the reach of any nation's ability to control them. They are the new sovereigns and liege lords remapping our world while politicians line up to profess their nation's fealty to them.
They are interested only in their private agendas and personal profits and will unhesitatingly buy or bribe any political power they need or use what they already control to undermine any that stands in their way.
So the sick dream of dominating others, or the entire world for that matter, and it's ongoing efforts to destroy, demean and repress the true human spirit that will always stand in it's way, has never really abated or lost it's allure.
It fills the disturbed minds of all those who lack a normal sense of conscience and are filled with an unshakeable belief in their own natural superiority and unlimited entitlement instead.
Fascism's singular appeal to these individuals is based on the fact that it supports their distorted image of themselves while promising all that they crave.
They are not merely followers or initiated into it, they are the exactly same kind of people as those who invented it!
I will supply the third Dave Emory link for Jeff's latest post. I don't know what people on the board think of Emory, but I have listened to his radio shows on and off since the mid-Eighties and find him is one of the most insightful and prescient speculators on our recent past and present moment. In some of his latest shows he has been refering to the following historical,mostly out of print, books on Fascism's roots and shoots. Download them,bind them and be sure to pass a copy to friends family,countryman,and of course your local library because its probably doubtful that any of these in their collections.
http://spitfirelist.com/Books/books.html
Other Worthwhile Books are below. Although I have read many but not all of these selections. I welcome any input on other books that helps
us all unwrap our recent and presently hopefully presently unraveling historical mystery.
Unholy Alliance: A History of the Nazi Involvement With the Occult -Peter Levenda (Also Levenda's Sinister Forces Trilogy is highly
recommended.)
The Occult Roots of Nazism: Secret Aryan Cults and Their Influence on Nazi Ideology-Nicholas Goodrick-Clarke
Black Sun: Aryan Cults, Esoteric Nazism and the Politics of IdentityNicholas Goodrick-Clarke
Unholy Trinity : The Vatican, The Nazis, & The Swiss Banks-John Loftus
The Belarus Secret by John Loftus
U.S. Intelligence and the Nazis by Richard Breitman
Prelude to Terror: the Rogue CIA, The Legacy of America's Private Intelligence Network the Compromising of American Intelligence -Trento
Please post others books that have helped you start to unravel the recent historicalhistorical/mystery!
Ok here is the the 4th Dave Emory referenced post. Per my previous post on influential books, I feel compelled to post this excellent introduction that Dave Emory has written regarding the "out of print" books he has archived on his website. I think this is provides an fitting corollary to Jeff's excellant article.
INTRODUCTION
By Dave Emory
“It’s a good thing we didn’t lose World War II. If we had, all our public officials would be named Shultz, Weinberger and Kissinger, and everybody would be driving German and Japanese cars.”—Popular joke that made the rounds in the early 1980’s.
In the decades since the end of the Second World War, much has been written about the war and fascism, the driving force behind the aggression that precipitated that conflict. Unfortunately, much of what has been said and written has failed to identify and analyze the causes, nature and methodology of fascism—German National Socialism or “Nazism” in particular. A deeper, more accurate analysis was presented in literature published before, during and immediately after World War II. The SPITFIRE web site is pleased to present a number of books published during that period. All more than 50 years old, these works embody a more complete, profound analysis of the historical forces that dominated the events of that time and, more importantly, our own.
Whereas much contemporary literature on the subject presents fascism (and Nazism in particular) as an aberration, the phenomenon was an outgrowth of major political forces and dynamics that dominate and control contemporary events and processes. Some of the books presented here illustrate the extent to which fascism (Nazism in particular) was an outgrowth of globalization and the construction of international monopolies (cartels). [FTR#’s 99, 361, 426, 511 and 532 present an overview of the reinvestment of the wealth generated by the American industrial boom of the 1920’s in German and Japanese strategic heavy industry. It was this capital that drove the engines of conquest that subdued both Europe and Asia during the conflict.]
Germany’s Master Plan (1943) by Borkin and Welsh analyzes how the Nazis took advantage of the budding globalized economy to restrict their enemies’ strategic production, as well as their access to critical raw materials. Treason’s Peace (1947) by Howard Watson Ambruster highlights how the I.G. Farben chemical firm manipulated trade relationships to the advantage of the Third Reich. In addition, the book illustrates how corporations, businessmen and politicians beholden unto the firm’s non-German cartel partners assisted that manipulation, as well as the postwar rehabilitation and exoneration of both I.G. and its most important personnel. Those personnel and the vast reach of I.G. Farben and its cartel partners are also the subject of Josiah Du Bois’s The Devil’s Chemists. James Stewart Martin’s All Honorable Men (1950) documents the manner in which powerful economic interests in the United States frustrated attempts at de-cartelization and thereby ensured the postwar perpetuation of globalized “business as usual.” As Martin points out, these commercial interests were able to successfully manipulate the networks through which government operates, and direct it to their own nefarious ends. The lone title in the collection less than 50 years old, Paul Manning’s Martin Bormann: Nazi in Exile (1981) chronicles the postwar underground perpetuation of the Nazi political and business hierarchy and its dominant role in both the international corporate economy and the contemporary political landscape.
The Third Reich’s elaborate plans for postwar underground survival and continuity were predicated on the certainty that the multinational corporate community would preserve the Nazi infrastructure as a bulwark against communism during the (then) imminent Cold War. This “Underground Reich” was foreseen and analyzed in Curt Reiss’s The Nazis Go Underground, published in early 1944. In addition to the powerful corporate economic interests allied with Nazi business centers, the process of underground perpetuation was greatly aided by “Fifth Column” movements abroad. Composed of ideological supporters of the fascist philosophy, these Fifth Column movements were instrumental in realizing Nazi blueprints for military conquest during the war, as well as postwar continuation and enlargement of those plans. Written on the eve of World War II, Gollomb’s Armies of Spies correctly anticipated the enormous scope and effectively successful activities of the Fifth Columnists in nations slated for Nazi invasion. Triumph of Treason (1944) by Pierre Cot is a remarkable first-hand account of the subversion of France by powerful domestic interests, who saw political control by their ideological allies (and cartel business partners) in Germany as preferable to power-sharing with their own democratically-minded citizens. [Cot had been the French Minister of Aviation in the immediate pre-war period, and witnessed the deliberate, successful attempts at weakening France’s ability to resist the Nazis militarily. The traitors who subverted French democracy then blamed the French collapse on their patriotic political opponents.]
In developing their Fifth Column movements abroad, the Nazis (and the Japanese) proceeded in a geopolitical manner. Because they saw Spain as the key to the domination of several continents (Europe, North Africa, Latin America), the Nazis and their allies in the general staff groomed the Spanish Falange as the fascist movement of choice. Writing of this in Falange (1943), Alan Chase notes how the Reich then used political control of Spain to advance their agenda in Latin America and the Spanish-speaking world. The reader is invited to address Chase’s research in light of the relatively well-documented postwar operation and perpetuation of fascist interests in Latin America.
For the Nazis, geopolitics dictated a profound interest in the Muslim peoples of what they called “The Earth Island.”--a giant, contiguous land mass that encompasses all of Europe, much of the Middle East, the former Soviet Union, India (including Pakistan at the time), and China. Stretching from the Straits of Gibraltar to the Pacific coasts of China and Russia, this land mass contains most of the world’s territory, population and natural resources—oil in particular. Control that land and you control the world. Accordingly, the Nazis built alliances with the various Muslim populations (Arabs in particular) that are indigenous to many of the most important petroleum-producing regions. Writing in 1951, John Roy Carlson witnessed and chronicled the postwar Nazi recrudescence in the Middle East in Cairo to Damascus, a work that has particular importance for students of the events of 9/11/2001.
In an earlier work—Undercover (1943)—Carlson infiltrated and wrote about the vigorous Axis underground that existed in the United States before and during World War II. Michael Sayers and Albert E. Kahn penned Sabotage in 1942, documenting the violent and treasonous nature of many of the American Fifth Columnists, who committed acts of assassination and sabotage in support of the Axis powers. These tactics were used to good effect in Germany and Japan, where potential political opponents to the rise of fascism were eliminated through a deliberate program of political murder.
It is in that context that we may view Government by Assassination (1942), Hugh Byas’s riveting account of the assassinations committed by the Japanese patriotic and ultra-nationalistic societies. Culminating in the “May 15th Incident”—the assassination of the Japanese Prime Minister on 5/15/1932—these murders were instrumental in the accession to power of the Japanese militarists and the corporate and imperial elements behind them.
Two other books available here provide valuable insights into the contemporary period. T.H. Tetens’ Germany Plots with the Kremlin (1953) treats the pivotally important German “Ostpolitik,” which German power structure has traditionally exploited in order expand and develop its influence. The German threat to either remain neutral during the Cold War, or to ally with the USSR was a significant factor in persuading conservative American power brokers to go along with the return to power in Germany of the Nazi elements that prosecuted World War II. Under the circumstances, some of these conservatives felt that permitting Nazi elements to return to power behind a democratic façade was the lesser of two evils, although many would have preferred a more traditionally conservative German political establishment. This German “Ostpolitik,” in turn, is characteristic of the geopolitical foresight and cynicism with which Pan-Germanists have successfully pursued their goal of world domination through the centuries.
Paul Winkler’s The Thousand-Year Conspiracy traces the origins of German chauvinism to the ascent of the Teutonic Knights within Germanic society. Winkler labels the enablers of the dark side of the German character “Prusso-Teutonics” and notes that, in their pursuit of Pan-German goals, they do not hesitate to deal in a cynical and ruthless manner with their own citizens. Of particular note for contemporary Americans is the deliberate, Machiavellian manipulation of the German economy by Hjalmar Horace Greeley Schacht, the American-born financier who eventually became the finance minister of the Third Reich. Take note of Winkler’s account of how Schacht re-structured the German economy with an eye to—among other things—driving the citizenry to such a point of hysteria that they would willingly follow the likes of Hitler. Compare Winkler’s analysis with what is taking place today in the United States. Writing in 1943, Winkler foresaw that the Prusso-Teutonics would realize their goals through the creation of a German-dominated central European economic union (bearing a striking resemblance to today’s European Monetary Union.)
“Those Who Forget the Past Are Condemned to Repeat It”—George Santayana
“ . . . We cannot turn over our future economic policy to private groups without public responsibility, as we have in the past. . . .” U.S. Attorney General Thurman W. Arnold, writing in the “Introduction” to Germany’s Master Plan
Good post today. Nice to see you giving David Emory some "props" here finally. Though his style is a little more formal, stiff and self admittedly pedantic, he is always informative and thoughtful. Comparatively, Mae Brussell was a "free style" mad genius. I don't think I've ever heard anyone synthesize information at the drop of a hat (and in a sometimes almost manic, teetering out of control style) like Mae did. A lot of her broadcasts from the early 70's to the late 80's are available to order on mp3 on her site; they are fairly inexpensive--excellent if you have iTunes.
Btw, I recall hearing (cannot remember where) that a picture was taken of George HW Bush and Klaus Barbie together somewhere on the West Coast of the US, and that it existed on the internet at some point . (?)
Fascism--relax, you're soaking in it.
Indeed. It's like Palmolive, 'Madge the Manicurist' says it will make your hands look younger while you're scrubbing the grease out of all those filthy pots and pans you've allowed to accumulate in the sink.
Another piece that's well worth reading in connection with all of the above is Steve Kangas's "The Origins of the Overclass," about the CIA as the basis of the ongoing right-wing takeover of the US since 1970. Although it doesn't explicitly identify this movement as fascist, it forms a perfect match with others that do.
Pick any thread of the contemporary right and try to trace back where it came from and how it got its power, and you will almost certainly wind up with the CIA.
One major line of transmission goes through Bill Buckley (CIA) and particularly his Young Americans for Freedom. Some of YAF's leaders of the 60's and early 70's got channelled into associations with essentially fascist groups like the American-Chilean Council and the World Anti-Communist League, or with the related operations of Reverend Moon. Others followed the path of fundraising scams and political dirty tricks.
A second line goes through Ray S. Cline (OSS and CIA) and his Center for Strategic and International Studies, founded in 1962. Cline and his network of both former and active CIA agents were a major force behind George H.W. Bush's abortive presidential bid in 1979 and then were involved in the darker aspects of Reagan's 1980 campaign. Even though Cline died in the 90's, CSIS continues to be a hotbed of Nazi-style geostrategic thinking mentioned in the long Dave Emory quote above -- Kissinger, Brzezinski, all that bunch -- and is behind much of the insane US dream of ruling the world by dominating the 'stans and Central Asia.
There are a couple of other avenues of CIA influence that I haven't explored as deeply as those two. One involves Scaife and the other funders who have pumped so much cash into right-wing operations since the 70's. Another is the religious right, whose origins seem not to lie in anything genuinely religious but rather in the extreme anti-communist groups of the 50's, behind which lie the overt fascist groups of the US in the 30's.
And then, of course, there are the Gladio/Stay-behind type operations in places like Italy and Turkey. And on. And on.
It's a vast, tangled web -- and I've only explored a few small corners of it. Between 1950 and 1990, most of it was able to pass as "anti-communist" and thus obscure its true nature. But once we consider it as not only explicitly fascist, but as the direct heir of the fascism of the 30's and 40's, certain figures and events are highlighted and the whole takes on greater coherence.
As one example, the close relationships among various strains of fascists in Italy, Latin America, and Taiwan in the 70's and 80's start to appear as a main theme, and not merely a sidebar to the US struggle against the Soviet Union. In fact, the entire Cold War begins to appear as an elaborate diversion from what was really going on in those years, a myth or cover story to justify actions and affiliations that would otherwise have been unthinkable.
And the CIA, as a covert vehicle for the reinforcement of elite dominance, was at the heart of most of it.
'just give us 4 more years' - 1933
'4 more years!' - 2004
this really parallels with president Bush presently. i mean the common feeling the media portrays is that he has 3 empty years ahead of him...that the US has 3 empty years ahead of us...
but by april 30th or so, when the 30 day warning for iran ends..it will be the next step in a long process of..elimination.
its kind of like a RTS computer game...like Risk. a quest for world domination. slowly working to eliminate obstacles and opposition, so that the best conditions for your ultimate goal present themselves. thank hegel.
Nice, so now can you take the next step and do something about it.
Sorry, forbidding holocaust talk don't count. y, it's not like anyone comes here seeking anything or anything. Lord knows those colourful friends of yours can't get a word in anywhere else on the web. For petty money? Proud? to give likes of this scum and asst. co. a break and a forum every day:
"....Hello? I can't help but feel the previous posts are deliberately obfuscation.....Certain posters I think are just frantic that people might again be wondering about Dov Zahkeim, comptroller of the DOD at the time of the attacks, the missing 3 trillion dollars and his later support of Hamas, the dancing Israeli "moving men" and strange absence of Israeli casualties in the WTC, the timely move out of Zim shipping and the e-mails received at the Odego warning them out of the building. H-m-m wouldn't want to implicate the zionist controlled press in the cover-up of all this either, now would we? how about Silversteins friendship with Sharon. Certainly wouldn't want it to get out about how most of the drafters of the famous document calling for a "new Pearl Harbor" (The Project for the New American Century) held dual citizenship to Israel. Oh well. Gosh, it isn't Israel that wanted that war in Iraq, now was it? Better fight like hell to keep people thinking a bunch of kids with boxcutters did this under the direction of a lunatic living in a cave. Good try guys. But I don't buy it, and when people start putting the facts together, they mostly won't either......"
NO MORE KNUCKLE-WRAPPING!!!!
NO MORE "FIRE-PITTING"!!!!
stand up mate, history will not absolve YOU
Hey Gang !
Satellite Photographs of Halliburton's American Concentration Camp
Take II:
Hey Gang !
Satellite Photographs of Halliburton's American Concentration Camp
I wonder if anyone here remembers the John Beermann story. He attended UWO with me and we were both members of the campus young Liberals. He ended up getting a job with a cabinet minister as an assistant and then hooked up with the Moonies and was wisked away to San Francisco. I tried to track him down there but only got as far as the Moonie welcome wagon before I was turned out the door.
Skorzany apparently moved back to the States (Florida) where journalist and boyfriend Eric Orion met him and over a few hours was given the contents for a book yet to be published called "The Bush Connection".
I've heard excerpts from the book on The Arctic Beacon which is beyond belief and that is why I'm giving a head's up on it.
It was to be published this spring/summer.
Jeff,
Something very weird: some time ago I did find an amazing book in Mexico, Auschvitz, ¿comienza el siglo XXI?, edited by the Fondo de Cultura Económica. It´s a book by the german writer Carl Amery that affirms Hitler is in fact the precursor of this new century, his creator, because we are entering the era of planet´s management, with his guide.
The weird thing: the book is available in german and spanish, but not in english, and Amazon.com does not sell it by itself...
Amery says at the final chapter of his book - planet management or the globalization of Hitler´s formula - that the quid for this application is a crisis situation, that would include material scarcity as existencial disorientation. The message: there is not enough nor everyone. So the elite has to act to impose order, not a human order itself. "We cannot stop the Titanic´s path, let´s then arrange a little the band´s music... let´s find the implicit veneration of the hitlerian formula: we are right because we are the best, because we are the real humans..."
The book was edited in german in 1998, three years before 9-11...
But Amery says something surprising: the only moment the Germans said nom was when began the extermination of people with discapacities, but specially children. This measure could not rest in "secret", and Hitler stopped. The historian that discovered this anomaly was Gunnar Heimshon says Amery.Hitler was fourious, because he knew the tradition to care for sick children, was a semite one, that was now part of christianity.
But this "no" from the germans says Amery was the catalizer for Auschwitz: the erase the software - the Jew DNA - he disposed to distroy the hardware.
And know, with the new century, this is once thousand times easier....
Read Amery, in Spanish or German, while you can...
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/3630879985/qid=1143908956/sr=1-5/ref=sr_1_5/103-4156616-5403023?s=books&v=glance&n=283155
Critical books on this subject which I have mentioned before are by Konrad Heiden (who calls himself the first antiNazi because he bagan protests against Hitler in the early 1920's as a student.
He escaped the Nazis and came to America where he wrote:
"Der Fuehrer" in 1944 and earlier (1935) "A History of National Socialism"
In these books he documents the Hitler financial ties to Wall Street and their plans for a Anglo-American-Nordic 2000 year fascist Reich accepted as necessary (with American involvement)by Hitler in 1933-4. That is when many of these deals with the Bushes, Rockefellers, Morgans, Dulleses, Walkers, Harrimans, etc. were cut.
WASPism and "eugenics" were a key component.
I would add the "Splendid Blonde Beast" and John Loftus' "The Secret War" as must reads which document these US-Nazi corporate ties as well as the essential Carroll Quigley's "Tragedy and Hope"
Not to mention webster Tarpley at www.tarpley.net on Bush and the Nazis.
Anyone who knows this history and these ties will not doubt that we have been in the grip of a Nazi-fascist Reich which doesn't need the NAZI LOGO ANYMORE BUT WHICH USES THE IDEALOGY AND THE METHODS OF FASCISM FOR GLOBAL Fascist domination by WASP elites and their collaborators of all stripes.
Is George H.W. Bush Really Prescott Bush's Son?
by GREG SZYMANSKI
The history books say Hitler's personal body guard and henchman Otto Skorzeny died in 1975.
Eric Orion of Florida says the legendary former Nazi special forces commander was alive and well only a few years ago, living under a fake CIA alias as a south Florida carpenter.
According to Orion, Skorzeny died several years ago at the ripe old age of 95 but not before he spilled out his guts to him in a death bed confession.
And after hearing Skorzeny's story -- a story so bizarre and incredible -- it simply leaves mouths hanging wide open, wondering how in the world this could happen in America.
"I was dating this girl in south Florida and her father turned out to be the feared Nazi SS body guard to Hitler, Otto Skorzeny," said Orion in an extended conversation from his Florida home, adding Skorzeny spilled the beans himself, not his x-girlfriend who remains tight lipped about her father's past. "When I met him, he was 90 but looked a lot younger. He was 6'4" with the biggest hand I ever shook in my life.
Recently, Orion also was a guest on Greg Szymanski's radio show, The Investigative Journal, where he claimed, based on Skorzeny's allegations, the American government has been lying since 1945 about the identities and whereabouts of thousands of former Nazis given safe haven and living in America today.
Orion also said Skorzeny gave him "a shoebox full" of never before published pictures, linking many high-ranking American officials to Nazi war criminals, as well as information that George H. Bush has been lying about his true identity and was really the adopted son of Prescott Bush.
He also claims that Hitler was given safe haven in America and Nazi criminals, Dr. Josef Mengele, nicknamed the Angel of Death, and Nazi SS killer, Reinhard Gehlen, were still alive and walking the streets of America as of three years ago.
"I met with Skorzeny on three separate occasions for roughly five hours and he said that George H.W. Bush was and is a SS Nazi spy born in Germany as George H. Scherff, Jr.," said Orion. "He told me that Bush was really the son of Dr. Nikola Tesla's German born, illegal immigrant accountant, George H. Scherff, Sr., being later adopted by Prescott Bush.
"Apparently, according to Skorzeny, in 1938, Hitler sent 14-year-old George Jr. to befriend, spy and kill Tesla, who later on Jan. 6, 1943, was actually killed by Skorzeny and SS Nazi Reinhard Gehlen. Bush, however, later forged a birth certificate while Prescott Bush, a known Nazi, adopted him, covered his real identity and later helped him join the Navy under false pretenses."
Asked if he thought Skorzeny had any reason to lie and why he was chosen to hear his deathbed confession, Orion added:
"No, I believe he is for real. His pictures matched up with the history books and he told me he was coming forward with this information because the Bush family had cheated him out of a lot of money over the years. In the end, I think he wanted to get even and there were so many specifics that later I verified, leading me to believe he was telling me the truth.
"I also spent five years researching this information and have written a book, called The Bush Connection, yet to be published. Like I said my book took five years of painstaking research to complete and my motivation was to show Americans how our government illegally brought over 50,000 Nazis to America to create a New World Order and Fourth Reich in America under the guidance of George H. Bush.
"I also want to say that I've learned throughout the course of my research that our government is still protecting these Nazis, like they did Skorzeny up until his death."
After learning about the damaging Bush information and the underground network to hide Nazis, Orion went to the Justice Department for help but instead received nothing but harassment and death threats.
"They came after me big time," he said. "Right after I told them I was at my girlfriend's house and her mother went white as a ghost after receiving a phone call. I think she was informed that I was on to her husband's identity.
"That night after I left Skorzeny's house, I was followed, run off the road and it looked like one of the men in the car had a handgun. They are also tracking my mail, as well as hacking into my computer and keeping a close eye on my activities."
Besides the Bush allegations, Skorzeny laid several other bombshells on Orion, including the truth about Adolph Hitler's death and that Bush's role as a war hero was intentionally fabricated.
"Skorzeny told me he helped fake Hitler's suicide in 1945 and actually shot Hitler's double between the eyes, leaving him there in place of Adolph," said Orion. "He then said that he flew off with Hitler and SS Nazi pilot Hanna Reitsch to safety in Austria. Skorzeny then told me he turned himself in to Americans and later helped co-found the American CIA with Nazi George H. Scherff, Jr., aka George H. Bush."
Orion also said that Skorzeny confirmed reports that already surfaced in the New York Post made by an old war buddy of Bush, Chester Mierzejewski, who questioned Bush's account of how his plane went down during World War II, leading to his so-called "hero status."
In the article, Mierzejewski, who was a recipient of The Distinguished Flying Cross, claimed he had a bird's eye view of the Bush cockpit when he saw Bush abandon his crew and bail out, leaving his two crew members to die.
Robert Flood, a former B-17 bombardier, also claimed Bush was "no war hero," saying he violated the primary rule for a captain of a multi-crew aircraft.
"The pilot never leaves the airplane with anybody in it," said Flood.
Orion said that Skorzeny told him the CIA is really Hitler's "Third Reich" in America, the agency being created to manipulate intelligence and lie to the American people.
Going back to the stolen Tesla technology and the CIA's role, he added:
"The CIA uses stolen Tesla technology, according to Skorzeny, to spy on Americans and manipulate the weather. There are thousands of satellites orbiting the earth that project high intensity positively charged laser beams to certain areas on the earth. These positively charged laser beams enable the New Word Order Nazis/C.I.A. to use their stolen Tesla Technology to manipulate the weather & to transmit extremely low frequency "elf" waves with subliminal messages for mind control purposes.
"When HAARP is active, giant space based lasers simultaneously aim their beams to a central "spot" on earth. That "spot" will then experience severe droughts, hurricanes, tornados or earthquakes. Spontaneous Human Combustion or "SHC" occurs when these lasers are pointed directly at human beings.
"Hurricane Katrina was allegedly a man-made disaster. Bush was quick to mention that it was a "natural disaster." It was created to distract America's attention away from Bush's latest unqualified fascist neo-con, Supreme Court of Injustice appointees.
"Eyewitnesses allegedly saw the levees in New Orleans being blown up by US soldiers after they had survived the storm intact. Katrina was a low, Category 3 storm. Not a CAT 4 or 5 as initially claimed! The levees were intentionally blown up to help Bush's neo-con insurance company cronies. Most homes are covered by wind damage insurance only. Not flooding. If the houses were damaged by flooding instead of wind damage then the insurance companies do not have to pay out any claims.
"This man-made diversion allowed Bush & OPEC the opportunity to "rape" the American tax payers once again by increasing the price of gas for no legitimate reason other than to make billions of dollars of profit at their expense!"